"Fake News": The Emergence of a Post-Fact World

[SomeGuy]

Quote:Do you consider the UVA thing to be a product of the MSM?  Why?  I don't consider Rolling Stone to be part of "the MSM", or any other definition of the media. 

The Duke Lacrosse issue did not originate in the media.  It was covered, for good or ill, by the entire press corps, but it was not a media product.  Is there a point there?

It was "in" the media but not "of" the media, that's the tack we are going with? 

Rolling Stone not in "the media"?  Sure, maybe back when you were a kid, but nobody seemed to dismiss it as an irrelevant outlet when Hastings did his article on McCrystal.  The UVA thing got picked up and passed around the "real" media like it was a "real" story.  The story and its retraction was featured in Columbia Journalism Review and the Poynter Institute as an example of a failure in "journalism".

Come on, the level of dishonesty and sloppy sophistry here is embarrassing.