"Fake News": The Emergence of a Post-Fact World

[David Horn]

(01-16-2017, 11:27 AM)SomeGuy Wrote: It was "in" the media but not "of" the media, that's the tack we are going with? 

Rolling Stone not in "the media"?  Sure, maybe back when you were a kid, but nobody seemed to dismiss it as an irrelevant outlet when Hastings did his article on McCrystal.  The UVA thing got picked up and passed around the "real" media like it was a "real" story.  The story and its retraction was featured in Columbia Journalism Review and the Poynter Institute as an example of a failure in "journalism".

Come on, the level of dishonesty and sloppy sophistry here is embarrassing.

I not an RS apologist because, frankly, I've always avoided the rag.  I don't read the Village Voice either, but I do consider it to be a member of the media.  If we allow for the broad concept that "reporting", in any form, puts one under the journalism heading, then OK, you win.  Maybe the media have allowed their own label to get hijacked.  I'm not part of the media in any form, so, to me, its really academic.

There still is a yawning distance between sloppy journalistic practice and intentional fabrication, though.  If that's not true, then why bother with anything.  Nothing is reliable.