01-24-2017, 01:46 PM
Quote: l didn't mean to imply that he saw them before the end of the war. The Lindberghs moved Stateside as WW2 became immenent. When he returned to Germany after the war he saw the camps. I read up on Lindbergh since l posted last. He was chummy with Goering, not Hitler, which makes sense since Goering was head of the Luftwaffe. Goering presented him with some kind of German medal. He got into eugenics bcuz his sister-in-law died young from a heart condition. He even invented some kind of heart pump, a runner up to the artificial heart. His interest in eugenics was humanitarian, whereas Hitler was just plain sick
Yeah, eugenics started out as a very hopeful idea, and then went dark places. Otherwise, in complete agreement.
Quote: yeah l know what a bundt cake is. My knowledge of the Bund & the Silver Legion comes from a cable documentary (some ppl like sitcoms, l like to watch documentaries) & the narrator pronounced it like a bundt cake. The visual of the rally looked like a Nuremberg rally @ 1st until the camera panned out & you could see it was @ Madison Sq Gardens. But l don't think the rally was their doom. Their doom was helping some spies that Hitler sent over. Spies that were seen washing up on a Long lsland beach by either a cop or a Coast Guard officer ( can't remember which) & later on 2 of them turned double agents, turning in the whole ring
The Feds also charged the leader with embezzling funds, if I am not mistaken. It was a thing, but not one that had any real chance of coming to power, which is all I was arguing against.
Bundt cakes are delicious.
Quote: what about Grampa Bush's attempt to overthrow Roosevelt, which was thwarted by Gen Smedley Butler? Grampa was big on Hitler, even after WW2 started. In 1942 he was busted for "trading with the enemy". But instead of going to jail he went to the Senate. Our Govt was corrupt even back then
Old Joe was definitely a Nazi sympathizer, and Butler's War Is A Racket still has a proud place on my bookshelf.
Quote:l never said Mussolini practiced his own definition of fascism (that l paraphrased) but we sure do here in the good ol USofA. Our pols are owned by corporations. Then there's Citizens United. All the stuff Bernie is fighting. But fwiw, there is some antisemitism as well, except it's against Muslims (who are also semites) not Jews
You're still playing word games with the meaning of the word "corporatism". We definitely have elements of a plutocracy, but that isn't the same thing as fascism by a long shot.
Still, I don't think we are too far off.