05-31-2016, 06:04 AM
[Bob Butler]These days, instead of 'Communist' or 'Nazi' people are using 'authoritarian'. Same thing. The word has been changed to protect the propagandists.
[Mike]I don’t think you have this right at all. Authoritarian is not a synonym for fascist. FDR was authoritarian. People who think what we need is another New Deal to address economic inequality or who favor a “Manhattan project” for alternative energy” are pining for an authoritarian approach. Are they fascists?
[Bob Butler]I'm the modern Whig. I'm in favor of democracy, human rights, equality and freedom.
[Mike] I am not recognizing anything in this description as particularly Whig-like, either American or British versions. The American Whigs were not democrats. America had an egalitarian culture (restricted to white men), and the Whigs were less egalitarian of the two parties. The British Whigs of the 18th century were the party of the large landowners, the Tories were more from the gentry. The Whigs were more politically liberal though.
[Mike]I don’t think you have this right at all. Authoritarian is not a synonym for fascist. FDR was authoritarian. People who think what we need is another New Deal to address economic inequality or who favor a “Manhattan project” for alternative energy” are pining for an authoritarian approach. Are they fascists?
[Bob Butler]I'm the modern Whig. I'm in favor of democracy, human rights, equality and freedom.
[Mike] I am not recognizing anything in this description as particularly Whig-like, either American or British versions. The American Whigs were not democrats. America had an egalitarian culture (restricted to white men), and the Whigs were less egalitarian of the two parties. The British Whigs of the 18th century were the party of the large landowners, the Tories were more from the gentry. The Whigs were more politically liberal though.