What the left has devolved to.

[Galen]

(02-02-2017, 06:46 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 04:31 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(02-02-2017, 03:13 AM)taramarie Wrote: SOME have gone overboard yes. Both sides take away rights in the name of their freedom. Not all participate in it though.

Except, both sides don't.  Only one side regularly attacks people from the other side, or resorts to burning things down.

Now, I agree that only some progressives are engaging in organized violence.  Too many are apologists for this kind of inexcusable violence, though.

(02-02-2017, 04:15 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: As a general rule, I suspect if Trump continues to ignore non-violent protest, continuing his policies without showing any sign that protests will effect him, the protests aren't apt to stay non-violent.  I'm not advocating violent protest, but I anticipate protests are going to get more violent.  Trumps persona is not one that backs down.

I've been trying to watch the spiral of violence, and this does seem to break new ground, at least in recent history.  This was organized and thought through.  The black clad protestors were masked and had a uniform of sorts.  With video cameras everywhere these days, this seems prudent.  The style of uniform reminds me more of the KKK than the fascists of the 1930s.  The old fascists wore pseudo military outfits and left their faces exposed.  Still, if you are trying to ask whether a group more resembles the brownshirts or the KKK, they aren't nice people.

It does not remind me much of the 1960s protests.  There were few masks and no uniforms back then.  The crowds of protestors were much much larger.  Early days, though.

While the black clad agitators were reported as throwing molotov cocktails and commercial grade fireworks, there were apparently no major injuries?  While the action was correctly described as violent, this suggests that the protestors were ready to take it only so far.

Like that, for example.

Too much of the conversation here is deciding which vile stereotype applies to whom.  I'm not interested in name calling, determining who is the fascist.  I'm not advocating violence.  Trying to understand what is going on is not the same as apologizing for what is going on.  Neither side reminds me particularly of the 1930s.  This moment in history is unique.

The trouble is that routinely the left engages in large scale violence far more that the right.  In many respects the Antifa people are behaving very much as the people they accuse Milo and everyone else they disagree with.  If they look like a duck and quack like a duck then I must consider the possibility that I have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidae on my hands.  The left for better or worse are choosing the tactics of the brown-shirts of long ago.  Maybe not all but the number are getting larger as time goes on.

If the people that the left hate so much these days are what they are accusing them of then they would have chosen the same tactic during the Obama Administration.  They did not.  These are not protestors but rather they are thugs and it is far past time they be described as such.  It is not a vile stereotype but rather the simple truth that you prefer to ignore.  I have lived among the left and the right and so I am in a good position to evaluate their behavior.  The conservatives, libertarians and religious right are no problem for me because all I have to do is leave them alone and they will leave me in peace.  I can not say this about the left.