02-02-2017, 05:43 PM
(02-02-2017, 04:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:As an American (a red as most blues like you here see me), I view you as a so-called liberal/blue/progressive and that's it. You don't mean anything more to me than those words. I only have an interest in one of them that you use. The one that I've already challenged and removed from you and those like yourself a long time. Do we (I say we because it's no longer just little old me vs a big blue regime like before) really need to do it all over again to prove a point?(02-02-2017, 04:04 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-02-2017, 03:18 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:I view the Democrats that way because that's how they come across to me and their politics come across to me. In my case, the Democrats have earned whatever vile stereotype that I've placed on them. You haven't figured this out yet. You haven't figured that you've been directly engaging with a hard core American for years. An American who has been judging you, your opinions, your actions or lack of actions, your social tolerances and the fundamental strengths of your values and beliefs as a so-called blue voter. An American who doesn't doesn't give a crap about your race, your gender, your ethnic heritage or whatever the Democrats view as being most valuable to themselves vote wise/blue community wise at election time.(02-02-2017, 03:01 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I assume that you are aware that rhetoric can easily turn into violence.
Oh, yes.
(02-02-2017, 03:01 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I assume that you are aware that rhetoric can also be used to insight violence.
Oh, yes. Recently demonstrated.
(02-02-2017, 03:01 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Do blues (the Democrats in general) have the ability to boldly confront/staunchly turn against the improper use of rhetoric that's viewed as being politically associated with them, so to speak.
The ability, yes. Some of them even do it. For example, Berkeley apparently was the origin place of a free speech movement. Some of the Berkeley people were particularly upset at the recent incident, denouncing the flame throwers quite clearly and vehemently. Not that everyone noticed. The flame throwers got more attention.
(02-02-2017, 03:01 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: At what point does the Democratic party stop being viewed by Americans as being a party of vote whores/ white hate merchants and stop using our federal funds as a means to pacify dangerous/radical groups within their social ranks?
Do you have any evidence that the Black Crew is federally funded? At least, this seems to be what you are suggesting. If so, I would expect Trump to issue an executive order telling them to stop.
I don't see Americans viewing the Democrats that way. I see certain red leaning extreme partisans obsessed with vile stereotypes viewing Democrats that way. I've been trying to get extreme partisans to drop their vile stereotypes, to stop casually confusing their vile stereotypes with Truth, with little to no effect. Extreme partisans are extreme partisans, and will wallow in their own hate and lies. Not much I can do about such irrational hatred.
And, yes, that sort of thing can lead to violence.
I as a liberal and sometime Democratic voter (and I suspect most like me) would not agree that your ideas and values are "American," and ours are not. What for you is a "hard core American?" Do such Americans have a certain racial or religious heritage? What do they believe to be American, as opposed to what "blue voters" believe to be American?