02-03-2017, 01:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-03-2017, 02:04 AM by Eric the Green.)
(02-03-2017, 12:43 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:Eric The Green Wrote:The USA is NOT arming IS; the USA is fighting and bombing IS. She can't seem to get that obvious fact straight. That is denial big time, and a massacre of this size today is comparable to Hitler. It is a huge disaster. It is a new holocaust, and it isn't over. To deny that the USA is helping the Free Syrian Army, and that they represent the Syrian people, is to deny that they rose up against the tyrant and were answered with murder. It is to deny the biggest war crime of our time. Tulsi is denying the biggest war crime of our time. This I cannot respect.
"Fighting and bombing IS" = conducting warfare in Syria. Obviously, the US needs to stop this. Btw, Trump needs to stop messing with Iran. The last thing we need is yet another pointless war in the Mideast. See.... I can be fair and balanced.
So you admit we're doing at least one war of choice, still.
That would be conducting war in eastern Syria, which Assad does not control; yes. It is arguably a war of choice, although it's almost entirely in Iraq and not Syria; but in my opinion it's a good choice, as long as it's mainly waged by Iraq and not the USA except in a supporting role. The IS is as bad as Assad. Syria is occupied by the two worst regimes since Hitler. Arguably Bush helped to create the IS part of it. So it's our duty to help fix it, at least in Iraq. It was going well, until Trump got in. Now Drump is insulting the Iraqis, and we may be thrown out. You'd like that result, but I think the IS is a cancer that has to be wiped out.
Meanwhile Tulsi is not protesting the USA war against the IS. She is protesting the USA war against Assad that does not exist.
Quote:Quote:And Tulsi is dead wrong. She's demanding that today's Hitler be part of a "peace deal?" How insane. No peace deal can involve Assad. The only peace possible on those terms is victory by Assad, which means most of his people are dead or gone. Assad can never be the legitimate ruler of his country again. John Kerry was wise enough to see that.
Godwin's law, man. It's not the US's job to fix every fucking humanitarian mess in the world. The proper role of the US military is to only defend the US. Of course, I'll look more into Tulsi. For now, I think she rocks.
Syria is not every goddam humanitarian mess in the world; it's the worst mess in the world. It would have been wise to support the free rebels without invading or bombing. We didn't do enough. The result are problems that have affected us and helped elect a madman. And it's not Tulsi's place, therefore, to say that Assad is the president, and to say what a peace deal should be like there either, then. There's no use about her complaining about a USA war with Assad, or about supporting terrorists fighting against him. She is trying to "fix the mess" by saying the USA should not conduct a war of choice against Assad in western Syria. It is useless, since the USA is not conducting a war of choice against Assad in western Syria.