02-03-2017, 07:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-03-2017, 07:26 PM by Eric the Green.)
(02-03-2017, 06:47 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-03-2017, 06:36 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-03-2017, 06:06 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-03-2017, 05:25 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-03-2017, 05:17 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: Really? That means Berzerkly needs to be defunded. Obviously the dunces that go there are not there to get a meaningful "education". And it means it's turned into a moldy piece of shit that's way past its sell by date.
You think Berkeley needs to be defunded because they invited a hate speaker? They made a mistake, but they do lots of good work for the people and the country.
Like I said, Berzerkly used to, but since it no longer serves that purpose and again, Milo's speech deserves to be protected just like BLM's speech. I've never called for BLM's anti white speech to be muzzled.
Just like with Syria, it doesn't seem to bother you to not get the facts straight. When you say Berzerkly, you are talking about some thugs who came from who knows where. They probably were not even Berkeley residents; much less students there. The university scheduled Milo to speak. Students protested non-violently. They had the right to speak too. Trump doesn't think so. To hell with Drump.
And there's no comparison to Black Lives Matter speech in any fair person's mind. BLM are protesting police who shoot down unarmed young black men for no reason. Eric Garner did nothing wrong, and did not deserve to be killed. Anyone who muzzles people for speaking out against police murder, is worse than fascist. People who speak out against a hate speaker who stirs up hateful actions, are protesting correctly. The black bloc thugs who invade campus, that's another matter, yes they are and should be arrested; but UC is not punishable because of what they did.
And there's no "used to." They do good work for the people; period.
1. DC managed to handle the back bloccers fine. Where the fuck were the police when the black bloccers started stirring shit?
Want a different take, fine! Berzerkly''s cops are just fucking incompetent!
2. BLM did stuff that wasn't even speech related. Some of their people kidnapped and tortured somebody just like the CIA does. So you support CIA black sites then?
3. If you can't see through the blinding shroud of war hawks, sorry, I'm done with discussing wars of choice. We're going nowhere with that discussion.
1. The DC rioters were a different group, I believe; DisruptJ20. I went to their rally in San Jose, you remember (but didn't disrupt anything), and there were no black bloccers there. The UC police decided not to attack the black bloccers, but protect the people inside the building, and arrest the black bloccers later. It's possible they thought some non-rioting students might get hurt. Sometimes events are canceled because violence might happen. Incendiary speech has its limits, like incendiary speech at a location where virtually everyone is against it. So, you can disagree with their decision. But since the UC invited him to speak, and Berkeley students didn't shut it down, you have little basis for complaining about UC Berkeley.
2. You are really stretching now. The video you linked was posted by black lives matter to expose and oppose what those young black guys did to the girl. So, you do support CIA black sites then? Why not accept that social justice is a good thing, even if you don't like some SJWs?
3. That's fine; we weren't discussing a war of choice anyway. We were discussing a fantasy made up by deceived folks like Tulsi. There WAS no war of choice to discuss, unless you wanted to discuss the war against the IS, which you didn't want to discuss. It's fine with me if you don't want to discuss the war against the IS.
