What the left has devolved to.

[Eric the Green]

(02-04-2017, 09:34 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(02-04-2017, 09:00 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-04-2017, 07:52 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(02-04-2017, 12:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-04-2017, 01:18 AM)Marypoza Wrote: -- Rags have you looked around that discover the networks site? Bad as Soros is, they're even worse. They're batshit crazy

Looking at actual facts, rather than right-wing conspiracy theories, there's nothing bad about Soros; although yes he supported a candidate that Marypoza doesn't like. That doesn't make him bad; it might make the system we live under in which money is speech bad, and Trump/Gorsuch who upholds it, bad. What he has done is support democratic movements in the region where he comes from. That's a good thing.

You just agreed with me. Let me reword this. He supported groups that are seditious.  Besides, external interference in the internal affairs of any nation state is just plain evil. That's why I despise such pricks like McStain. An you had a hissy fit over what was perhaps Russian interference in US internal affairs.

I don't agree with you. Supporting democratic movements by one's own people is not sedition; it's justice. These were not violent movements. They were not imposed by the US army. They were indigenous. Movements by the people deserve our non-violent support. Russian hacking is not a movement by the people.

Attacking Soros is attacking the wrong target, to a gross degree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

1. Are you sure? Soros = puppet master. Violent actors obviously don't have to have any government involvement.  I again refer you to the Weather Underground and the SLA I recall in not such a fond way.

This is not about violent actors. Those early 70s groups were extremely ineffective and not much of a threat, and rather pathetic and ludicrous (especially the SLA), and not supported by any puppet masters. Certainly I don't support such groups, even if I might agree with them on some issues.

Quote:2. If you're OK with Soros because you like what he does, then I suppose it's OK for me to be OK with the Koch brothers because the stuff they support helps my IRA balance, right?

Not at all; your IRA balance is not an especially important national cause of reform and justice; sorry

Quote:3. Hat tip to Maryposa,  yeah, I can go with McSenile.  That explains lots of things.

McCain is a senile clock. That's better than a broken one, but still wrong most of the time.