02-04-2017, 09:50 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-04-2017, 10:08 PM by Eric the Green.)
(02-04-2017, 09:38 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-04-2017, 11:57 AM),Eric the Green Wrote:What about the unarmed whites/Hispanics/Asians/Asian Indians/Muslims who are being shot by cops? Do you have any sympathy for them or just the black ones?(02-03-2017, 08:08 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-03-2017, 06:36 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:A fair minded person wouldn't automatically assume that cops shoot unarmed black men for no reason and automatically assume that they're guilty of it and automatically convict them for doing it like you seem to be doing in your blue mind. In case you have forgotten, you still live in America and you still live under American law and you still live within an American society that still widely recognizes and strongly believes in the American right to due process. Are blues like you viewed as Americans by modern Americans? This modern American doesn't believe so.(02-03-2017, 06:06 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: Like I said, Berzerkly used to, but since it no longer serves that purpose and again, Milo's speech deserves to be protected just like BLM's speech. I've never called for BLM's anti white speech to be muzzled.
Just like with Syria, it doesn't seem to bother you to not get the facts straight. When you say Berzerkly, you are talking about some thugs who came from who knows where. They probably were not even Berkeley residents; much less students there. The university scheduled Milo to speak. Students protested non-violently. They had the right to speak too. Trump doesn't think so. To hell with Drump.
And there's no comparison to Black Lives Matter speech in any fair person's mind. BLM are protesting police who shoot down unarmed young black men for no reason. Eric Garner did nothing wrong, and did not deserve to be killed. Anyone who muzzles people for speaking out against police murder, is worse than fascist. People who speak out against a hate speaker who stirs up hateful actions, are protesting correctly. The black bloc thugs who invade campus, that's another matter, yes they are and should be arrested; but UC is not punishable because of what they did.
And there's no "used to." They do good work for the people; period.
It is more than obvious that police have been shooting down unarmed black men, and a fair-minded person can see that they almost always get away with it, and can understand why black folks are angry about this. The law does not protect them, and neither do the police, in the way they do for white people. Racial profiling is common, and young blacks are put in prison more often than whites for the same offenses. We have more prisoners than any developed country, and people of color are disproportionately imprisoned. DNA testing has resulted in many cases being overturned; again mostly black and people of color who were innocent yet put in jail. No, this is anything but American, and if you approve of this situation, then that would not seem American to me.
Definitely. And many whites are also victims of our current justice system which tends to assume guilt before innocence is proven. I am concerned and sometimes write letters to officials; as for example for Barry Beach in Montana, and the finally-successful campaign to free Ryan Ferguson in Missouri. Rather ironic last name, it turns out. And of course, people of color and all those groups are more frequently assumed guilty, profiled and shot for no reason; blacks just seem to be the most frequent victims of injustice. But by NO means the only ones.
Quote: Who's liberal black butt do you have that white nose of yours stuck up now? Van Jones butt or Al Sharpton's butt? Do their black ass cracks look as pretty as they do? You gotta love them police hate merchants/deplorable on your side. You wouldn't be shit without them.
Van Jones is totally cool and tells the truth; Al Sharpton is less savory.
You can't blame victims of police violence for hating the police. But the truth is that the police are needed, and they are public servants just as threatened by Reaganomics and hatred of public service promoted by you libertarians, just like the social workers and the bureaucrats you don't like are threatened by this prevailing attitude in red America. The law is necessary, because businessmen are not angels, nor are some black folks or other misguided and unfortunate folks who steal and murder and join gangs; the law is necessary and has to be enforced by police, because people aren't perfect, and the people need protection from criminals, whether they work on Wall Street or roam along Main Street.
I hope the police become the public servants they are supposed to be and respect the law they uphold, and we need new recruits especially people of color to patrol in a friendly and on-street way their own communities. Yes, I respect the police when they are doing their job properly, same as others who do their work well. And communities need to see that they do.