02-06-2017, 02:27 PM
(02-04-2017, 11:06 AM)Danilynn Wrote: I'll let you in on a few other sorts of people that are also huge enthusiastic fans of the Theory.
Let me preface this with I have insomnia and wander all over the internet into some really oddball places in pursuit of something interesting to read at 1 am when my pain levels are high.
The White nationalists are also fans.
The African American equivalent of the White Nationalists are also fans. Their credo's are damn near word for word, ideology in reverse of the things the WN's spout.
Conspiracy theorists of the sort from fairly normal all the way to aliens are landing tomorrow variety, are fans.
When I say I hit some weird, dark spots on the web, I mean it. History searches for a particular era I really love will yield some bizarre spots. Places I will not post at, but will pop in and read things there. Because for all of the hate at some of them, there are some fairly well educated people at them, even if they are attempting to twist some history into something resembling a spiral staircase to back up their nut job ideologies. But the links to books and journals has been interesting.
Lots of people are fans of the Theory.
My sympathy on the pain.
....Anyone can read anything into the theory whatever one wishes. White nationalists might dream of bringing back White Power to the extent that they can restore slavery as their predecessors practiced it and get to force Jews to breathe in cyanide fumes as their hero (Oh, excuse me -- these folks often believe that the Holocaust never happened, but it would be a wonderful idea). I am not sure of what black nationalists could do to white people... a rape fantasy? Just think of all the ensuing abortions.
Race war would be the definitive Crisis. So would a Communist takeover. So would World War III or any war involving the USA and any superpower or near-superpower. An Independence Day scenario? Likewise. Are these realistic? Probably not.
Truth be told, the 4T never goes by design. People bungle or blunder their way into it. One contributing factor in the current Crisis, the Crisis of 1940 (Great Depression and World War II) was the speculative booms that devoured capital only to implode when the capital inflows ended. The implosion of the boom exposes that the bubble consumed capital that not only has been rendered worthless but could also have been used more prudently to create genuine wealth, as in public infrastructure and business plant and equipment. Opportunities for work and investment suddenly vanish together... and the neglect that society made hits practically everyone. The politicians in power, smug with easy success before the boom implodes, are caught clueless; they suddenly have no solutions. If a society is lucky the politician who promises change is FDR or Barack Obama. If a society is not so lucky it gets some demagogue better at finding scapegoats than solutions.
We now have the closest thing to a dictator that we have ever had -- indeed, someone who admires such monsters as the Kim dynasts in North Korea, Saddam Hussein, and Moammar Qaddafi. He once praised the Chinese government for being 'tough' on the protesters at Tienanmen square.
Of course I expect an arch-conservative in American politics to not endorse a liberal in the recent past. But at least Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher have precious little blood on their hands. But those are not the ideological models that Donald Trump has in mind.
Bad as I see Donald Trump going, I can imagine the Joint Chiefs of Staff doing to him what the Chilean equivalent did to Salvador Allende. Now that would be a Crisis!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.