Big Lies

[Eric the Green]

(02-12-2017, 08:05 PM)Marypoza Wrote:

(02-12-2017, 07:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-11-2017, 10:04 PM)Marypoza Wrote:

(02-11-2017, 08:24 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-11-2017, 05:53 PM)Marypoza Wrote: -- Assange has repeatedly denied that his sources are Russian. He has implied (but never came right out & said) that his sources are within the NSA. He has also said that a14 yo could hack into Podesta's email, so who knows.. besides Assange, that is 

Believing Assange and other conspiracy weavers is silly, when the CIA and the FBI and news sources have confirmed that Russia was behind all the hacking.

-- the DNC started that alternative fact bcuz a) they were picking a fight with Russia, & b) they were trying to distract the public from the contents of the emails. I've seen stories that go both ways- the CIA/FBI either confirmed or debunked the claim (shrug, whatever) Assange, otoh has been consistent in his denials. Besides, it really don't matter who gave Assange the emails. It's the content of the emails that matter

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Eric Wrote:Nixon was impeached, and senators were ready to oust him, after WH tapes revealed that Nixon ordered the FBI to suppress investigation into Watergate activities. If Trump does something similar regarding an FBI investigation, that might get some attention from some Republicans; maybe not enough.

Trump is now complaining about "so-called judges." Complaining won't get him impeached, but if Trump gets some of his lackeys to actually violate a Court order and enforce a Muslim travel ban, or some other Trump executive order the Courts have found to be illegal, that might get enough Republicans to oust him.

-- why would anybody with 2 brain cells working want to impeach the Donald. Cuz then we get stuck with Pence

Eric Wrote:I've explained that to you too. Pence is a wooden stick. He has about as much charisma as a dead turkey. His horoscope score is mediocre. Pence can be beaten in the next election. A Democrat would be tons better than either of them by 2020. And Trump is worse than Pence because he's a mental case. His appointments dispel any hope that he is in any way better than Pence would be. His cabinet and staff is the worst ever assembled by any leader, EVER. Bunch of billionaire reactionaries, culture warriors, war-mongers and Ayn Rand clones, most of them interested only in destroying the agency they are appointed to run, and taking away everything of value in America. That alone has already long since made Trump a TOTAL failure, and the most absurd ruler ever to walk on the stage of the Western World. Let alone his brazen disregard for the law, which is going to get him in trouble.

-- l thought Pence's score is higher than the Donald's
I think Pence is scarey, & now we got Jordan here talking about a Prez Pence....  yecch

As you have known, Donald has a good score, which is why I predicted he would not fade away as all the pundits thought, and had a chance to win. In my latest version of my scoring system, The Donald comes out 9-4. Pence is only 8-7; quite mediocre. He held his own in the VP debate, but otherwise he does not have the charisma to pull off what Trump did; essentially make people believe a bunch of lies and fear-mongering. Ironically, the lady who might run against him, Elizabeth Warren, also has an 8-7 score. I don't think she is a particularly strong candidate either, even though I usually agree with her views and admire her willingness to stand for what she believes most of the time.

Pence is scary; The Donald is double-scary. The only virtue of Pence from my point of view, is that he can be beaten for re-election. That's it! We're stuck with one or the other monstrosity, unless Pence does something equally stupid as Trump. At this point, I don't think that is likely.

http://philosopherswheel.com/presidentialelections.html

-- why do you think Pence is less scary than the Donald?

It's pretty obvious to anyone who has been following his behavior. The guys around him like Flynn and Bannon are truly dangerous and out to get him involved in the clash of civilizations. His other appointments demonstrate that he is now committed to policies even more right wing than those of Pence. He is a sociopath and a liar and a cheat. Putting someone as temperamentally unstable as Drump into the Oval Office is truly scary. Pence at least is a level-headed jerk.

And btw who was his first horrific appointment that demonstrated just how right-wing he is? Hint: his last name starts with a P.

Once again, his description; his theme song:





Tell me, why do you think Pence is more scary than Drump?