Big Lies

[Classic-Xer]

(02-14-2017, 12:49 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-14-2017, 12:41 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(02-13-2017, 11:59 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-13-2017, 11:29 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(02-13-2017, 06:36 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: But the laws were the same. The Democrats passed a Republican bill, and the Republicans all opposed it just because it was proposed by Democrats.

The laws weren't the same. The Democrats passed their own bill. The Republicans were basically BANNED from the negotiations. I'm sorry to say, I cannot believe how stupid/ignorant you are and how stupid the other blues are to allow you to continue representing them. So, how many blues like you are there?

The laws were the same. The Democrats had to pass their own bill simply because the Republicans were determined to block it just because it was a Democratic bill.

Sorry, I don't think any "blues" consider me their "representative."

Thanks for the compliment though. Sometimes I get labelled like that at various places by my debating opponents; usually not, though.

So, which bill is the one the Republicans blocked?  Is the the Original Massachusetts Bill which was a Republican idea,  or
did the bill that got blocked by the Republicans not written by Republicans.

No, Romney care, the original bill, was passed in Massachusetts. The Republicans could not block the Republican idea taken up by Obama (the ACA), but they all voted against it. Democrats had the majority in congress then, and Republicans by then had become fanatics who just want to block everything they can proposed by Democrats. So they have remained. But now they are the majority in congress.

Obama care was passed to provide free or highly subsidized healthcare for the poor and the working poor. The free market principles and other cost lowering measures like tort reform and so forth were completely left out of Obama. The Democratic party basically fucked everyone who had healthcare by not addressing the cost of healthcare for those who already had it. The Democrats don't ever speak to us. The Democrats tend speak to their own and that's it.