Big Lies

[Eric the Green]

(02-21-2017, 03:00 PM)Cynic Hero 86 Wrote:

(02-21-2017, 01:43 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-21-2017, 01:07 PM)Cynic Hero Wrote: I cannot Speak for Classic-Xer as he seems to be more of a standard Xer conservative, my own views are quite different than his on certain political matters. However on the subject of boomers, especially blue boomers; if anything Classic is far more moderate and restrained than most millies including myself. You selfish boomers want to destroy everything that makes civilization great and impose your disgusting idealized version of the 1950s. I say "idealized" because this boomer utopia would be denuded of everything that kept the actual 1950s from being a complete bland write-off of human activity. The boomers desired 50s style utopia but without such things as Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, The various Latin American, Asian and southern European regimes both on the right and on the left, as well as the segregationist state governments of the deep south: those were challenges but also opportunities for human struggle; Everything that allowed from human struggle throughout human history would be removed if the boomers are allow to triumph in the 4T. It would lead to a so-called "utopia" created by boomers that exemplifies blandness resembling the 1950s but denuded of everything that made the historical 1950s and early 1960s worth experiencing. Anti-boomers both on the right and on the left are fighting to preserve the human condition and unaltered humanity in the fullness of the human experience and will not allow boomers to destroy civilization in their attempt to change Human Nature.

Yeah, but in youth the blue boomers reacted against the 1950s and early 60s and delved into the civil rights movement and the counter-culture to create a new society that unfolded the fullness of the human experience. It was the late 1960s and 1970s that were "worth experiencing," beyond anything humans had experienced before. Liberation, imagination and spiritual unfoldment took the blue boomers into realms of relationship, awareness and passion for life unknown before in America. The bland 1950s were what was not worth experiencing. The 1960s and 70s blue boomers were not seeking to change human nature, but to unfold the essential human nature that already exists, and were guided by many enlightened late-cohort GIs and Silents and even some Lost in that quest.

Xers and millies have simply forgotten or deny this quest, or view it as having interfered with their desire for survival, since they (especially Xers) felt neglected or abused by their elders during the quest, which did have its indulgent downsides. Many Millies in addition, to some extent (those who vote Democratic), see the neglect of social duty and civic virtue due to the prevalence of laissez faire during the Unravelling, which was established also by people from all generations and not just by red boomers.

I don't thin you understood what I was trying to say in the last post. What I mean't is that boomers are trying to suppress the aspects of Human nature that allow for mass struggles to take place. I mentioned the 1T but without the various regimes mentioned in the previous post, I mentioned those various 1T era regimes such as Stalin, Mao, etc because those governments represented aspects of human nature that the boomer is trying to suppress. Xers and Millies resist the boomer quest because we regard those aspects of human nature to be crucial to human development.

What some millies and Xers forget is what was going on among boomers in the 1960s and 70s. That's why I bounced off of your post as a foil to mention what was actually going on. The boomers opened up a new view of human nature as already existing, assisted by mentors and fellow travellers among Silents, GIs and Lost. There was no "suppression;" it was an opening up.

But in more anxious times, and with less optimistic and more cynical young generation(s), this opening-up process is less visible. But yes, the human potential and peace movement is an alternative to the "struggle" that your neo-fascist authoritarian outlook requires. Xers and Millies do not support your struggle. Those who are progressive want to ditch laissez faire, and restore not the neo-fascism and ancient imperialism that you want, but to restore civic virtue as Obama described it and keep freedom and human rights for all people. This is among all generations, but particularly Millennials. Older red Boomers and Silents along with the red Xers and some Millies are empowering the reactionaries who want to hang on to laissez faire from the 1980s and to racial and religious uniformity from the 1950s. Just a reminder of what's really going on, cynic hero. This is the "struggle" that is happening today, and Boomers are certainly involved in it.