02-21-2017, 03:23 PM
(02-21-2017, 02:51 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(02-21-2017, 01:43 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-21-2017, 01:07 PM)Cynic Hero Wrote: I cannot Speak for Classic-Xer as he seems to be more of a standard Xer conservative, my own views are quite different than his on certain political matters. However on the subject of boomers, especially blue boomers; if anything Classic is far more moderate and restrained than most millies including myself. You selfish boomers want to destroy everything that makes civilization great and impose your disgusting idealized version of the 1950s. I say "idealized" because this boomer utopia would be denuded of everything that kept the actual 1950s from being a complete bland write-off of human activity. The boomers desired 50s style utopia but without such things as Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, The various Latin American, Asian and southern European regimes both on the right and on the left, as well as the segregationist state governments of the deep south: those were challenges but also opportunities for human struggle; Everything that allowed from human struggle throughout human history would be removed if the boomers are allow to triumph in the 4T. It would lead to a so-called "utopia" created by boomers that exemplifies blandness resembling the 1950s but denuded of everything that made the historical 1950s and early 1960s worth experiencing. Anti-boomers both on the right and on the left are fighting to preserve the human condition and unaltered humanity in the fullness of the human experience and will not allow boomers to destroy civilization in their attempt to change Human Nature.
Yeah, but in youth the blue boomers reacted against the 1950s and early 60s and delved into the civil rights movement and the counter-culture to create a new society that unfolded the fullness of the human experience. It was the late 1960s and 1970s that were "worth experiencing," beyond anything humans had experienced before. Liberation, imagination and spiritual unfoldment took the blue boomers into realms of relationship, awareness and passion for life unknown before in America. The bland 1950s were what was not worth experiencing. The 1960s and 70s blue boomers were not seeking to change human nature, but to unfold the essential human nature that already exists, and were guided by many enlightened late-cohort GIs and Silents and even some Lost in that quest.
Xers and millies have simply forgotten or deny this quest, or view it as having interfered with their desire for survival, since they (especially Xers) felt neglected or abused by their elders during the quest, which did have its indulgent downsides. Many Millies in addition, to some extent (those who vote Democratic), see the neglect of social duty and civic virtue due to the prevalence of laissez faire during the Unravelling, which was established also by people from all generations and not just by red boomers.
Eric I need to correct you here. We neither forgot nor denied that quest. Hell, at least in the case of us Ataris, we spent the entire freaking 1980s harvesting the fruits of that quest. We kept harvesting until there was nothing left to harvest. It helped us to position ourselves to deal with the 3T. Why do you think we didn't all OD or blow our brains out 20 years ago?
Well, you were in California, so it was less easy to ignore.
But I'm sure there were some who didn't forget, at least to some extent. What I said was a generalization which I think is largely true.