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Big Lies
(02-21-2017, 05:25 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: I buy some old / new tech sometimes. Frames and racks for use in data centers. Choices are:

1) Well built ones (most of the time), made in the Rust Belt, that have a somewhat high item cost, that can be trucked to the site in less than a week, at a relatively low shipping cost. No customs clearance, no problems with dock strikes, no pre-holiday port congestion, etc.

2) OK built ones (consistently), made in China, that have a low item cost, that ship on container ships in 2 - 3 weeks, then still need to be trucked to the site, at a high shipping cost. Customs clearances, every few years a dock strike, pre-holiday port congestion every year without fail.

Management told me, buy #2. Reason being, they are a strategic, well known source, that everyone and their uncle also use. The low material cost looks good on the books (in the short term). Some group think maybe? Meanwhile, some Rust Belt dude voted for Trump, and wants to nuke China.
How does it feel to screw your own for the sake of yourself and the communists who rule China? Don't feel bad about it, that's good, I won't feel about screwing you someday either. I don't need your money dude. BTW, companies who conduct their business with only the short term in mind generally aren't in it for the long term.
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Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 12-09-2016, 03:15 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-09-2016, 03:45 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-09-2016, 07:21 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-10-2016, 10:05 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Warren Dew - 12-10-2016, 02:15 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-10-2016, 02:55 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-10-2016, 05:50 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-10-2016, 06:43 PM
RE: Big Lies - by radind - 12-10-2016, 06:28 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-12-2016, 02:25 AM
RE: Big Lies - by radind - 12-12-2016, 09:26 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-12-2016, 02:21 PM
RE: Big Lies - by radind - 12-12-2016, 02:35 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-12-2016, 02:45 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Warren Dew - 12-12-2016, 04:37 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-12-2016, 05:05 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-12-2016, 12:21 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-12-2016, 03:51 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-12-2016, 05:23 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-14-2016, 08:00 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-15-2016, 05:14 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-15-2016, 05:27 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-12-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-14-2016, 07:26 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-14-2016, 07:53 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-14-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-14-2016, 07:56 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-15-2016, 12:08 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-15-2016, 04:40 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 12-15-2016, 07:58 AM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 12-15-2016, 11:05 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Warren Dew - 12-15-2016, 12:16 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 12-15-2016, 01:05 PM
RE: Big Lies - by tg63 - 12-15-2016, 03:23 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 12-15-2016, 04:27 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Warren Dew - 12-16-2016, 02:47 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-16-2016, 08:53 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-15-2016, 05:38 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-15-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-15-2016, 04:25 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-15-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-15-2016, 06:22 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-15-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-16-2016, 09:14 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-16-2016, 11:26 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 12-17-2016, 10:39 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 12-16-2016, 11:50 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-17-2016, 02:32 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 12-17-2016, 01:24 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-17-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 12-17-2016, 11:14 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 12-17-2016, 11:19 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 12-18-2016, 12:48 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 12-18-2016, 11:39 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-18-2016, 07:48 PM
RE: Big Lies - by radind - 12-17-2016, 02:16 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-17-2016, 08:18 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-17-2016, 08:38 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 12-17-2016, 11:41 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-17-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-17-2016, 09:08 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Anthony '58 - 12-21-2016, 11:10 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-21-2016, 02:08 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 12-22-2016, 07:49 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-21-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 12-21-2016, 04:46 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 12-21-2016, 06:21 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-21-2016, 06:39 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 01-11-2017, 10:32 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Anthony '58 - 01-18-2017, 12:04 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 01-18-2017, 05:25 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 01-22-2017, 07:40 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 01-22-2017, 11:12 AM
RE: Big Lies - by TnT - 01-22-2017, 05:24 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 01-22-2017, 11:32 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 01-23-2017, 12:14 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 01-23-2017, 01:47 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 01-23-2017, 11:42 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 01-23-2017, 01:45 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 01-24-2017, 07:03 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 01-25-2017, 07:08 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 01-25-2017, 07:43 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 01-23-2017, 01:59 AM
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RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 01-23-2017, 07:40 PM
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RE: Big Lies - by gabrielle - 01-23-2017, 10:50 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 01-25-2017, 07:01 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-10-2017, 05:31 AM
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RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-10-2017, 09:26 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-10-2017, 02:06 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-10-2017, 04:49 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-10-2017, 07:11 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-11-2017, 09:12 AM
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RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-12-2017, 02:00 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-12-2017, 04:13 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-12-2017, 09:13 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-13-2017, 02:00 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 02-10-2017, 04:16 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 02-12-2017, 08:28 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-10-2017, 02:51 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-11-2017, 04:15 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-11-2017, 04:57 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-11-2017, 05:54 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-10-2017, 03:36 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-10-2017, 07:05 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-10-2017, 07:19 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-10-2017, 11:26 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-10-2017, 11:40 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-11-2017, 05:04 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-11-2017, 05:03 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 02-11-2017, 05:53 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-11-2017, 08:24 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 02-11-2017, 10:04 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-11-2017, 10:04 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-13-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-13-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-12-2017, 07:10 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 02-12-2017, 08:05 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 01:48 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 03:24 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 03:25 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-13-2017, 07:28 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-13-2017, 10:36 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-13-2017, 08:24 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-13-2017, 12:56 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 12:57 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-13-2017, 01:41 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 01:44 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-13-2017, 04:51 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-13-2017, 05:32 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 01:51 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-13-2017, 06:10 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 05:11 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 06:36 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-13-2017, 11:29 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-13-2017, 11:59 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-14-2017, 12:41 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-14-2017, 12:49 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-14-2017, 09:07 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 02-15-2017, 07:33 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-15-2017, 12:56 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-15-2017, 03:58 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-15-2017, 05:58 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-15-2017, 06:42 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-15-2017, 07:39 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-16-2017, 12:44 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-16-2017, 02:04 AM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-16-2017, 02:30 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 02-16-2017, 07:55 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-15-2017, 06:09 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 02-15-2017, 07:36 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-15-2017, 07:42 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-15-2017, 11:02 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-16-2017, 01:07 AM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-16-2017, 02:49 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-16-2017, 01:22 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 02-16-2017, 07:51 AM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-16-2017, 02:55 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-17-2017, 12:14 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 02-17-2017, 07:58 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-17-2017, 03:10 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-18-2017, 02:50 AM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-17-2017, 05:28 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-18-2017, 02:30 AM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-18-2017, 08:26 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-18-2017, 03:55 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-19-2017, 10:49 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-19-2017, 12:21 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-20-2017, 12:44 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-20-2017, 01:35 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-20-2017, 04:34 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-20-2017, 04:49 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-20-2017, 10:59 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-20-2017, 05:38 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-22-2017, 09:54 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-18-2017, 11:50 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-16-2017, 03:36 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bad Dog - 02-15-2017, 11:58 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Mikebert - 02-16-2017, 07:50 AM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-16-2017, 03:03 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Mikebert - 02-17-2017, 01:06 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-17-2017, 05:42 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-17-2017, 02:47 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-19-2017, 01:49 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Cynic Hero '86 - 02-19-2017, 02:44 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-19-2017, 06:50 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Cynic Hero '86 - 02-19-2017, 08:37 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-19-2017, 08:43 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-20-2017, 10:09 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-20-2017, 10:37 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-20-2017, 10:55 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-21-2017, 12:43 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-21-2017, 07:24 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-21-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-21-2017, 04:43 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-21-2017, 07:03 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-22-2017, 10:45 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-22-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 12:50 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-22-2017, 03:56 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 04:12 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-22-2017, 05:39 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-22-2017, 10:37 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-20-2017, 01:07 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-20-2017, 11:09 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-20-2017, 11:23 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-21-2017, 02:43 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-21-2017, 12:56 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-21-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-21-2017, 05:18 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Cynic Hero '86 - 02-21-2017, 01:07 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-21-2017, 01:43 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Cynic Hero '86 - 02-21-2017, 03:00 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-21-2017, 03:18 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-21-2017, 08:15 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-21-2017, 03:23 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-21-2017, 03:49 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-21-2017, 10:39 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 12:35 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-23-2017, 03:48 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-21-2017, 10:00 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-21-2017, 11:00 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 02-22-2017, 07:53 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 02-22-2017, 11:55 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-22-2017, 03:29 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 02-22-2017, 07:00 PM
RE: Big Lies - by gabrielle - 02-24-2017, 02:54 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 02-24-2017, 07:43 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-22-2017, 04:52 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 12:37 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 03:47 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 03:59 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 06:53 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 06:55 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-22-2017, 07:47 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-23-2017, 08:20 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 02-24-2017, 08:34 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-24-2017, 09:44 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-25-2017, 01:06 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-25-2017, 01:40 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-25-2017, 01:44 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-25-2017, 03:42 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-25-2017, 04:22 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-25-2017, 07:59 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 02-25-2017, 04:31 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-24-2017, 03:27 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-24-2017, 04:46 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-25-2017, 01:41 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-25-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-25-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-25-2017, 11:29 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Classic-Xer - 02-26-2017, 03:12 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-26-2017, 06:11 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-25-2017, 03:26 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-25-2017, 09:32 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-26-2017, 07:55 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-27-2017, 07:35 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 02-27-2017, 04:13 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-01-2017, 01:29 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 03-01-2017, 02:19 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 03-05-2017, 11:19 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-05-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 03-05-2017, 03:03 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-04-2017, 02:10 PM
RE: Big Lies - by David Horn - 03-05-2017, 10:37 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-05-2017, 10:44 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 03-06-2017, 07:38 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Cynic Hero '86 - 03-04-2017, 02:29 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Marypoza - 03-05-2017, 11:52 AM
RE: Big Lies - by bobc - 03-05-2017, 06:30 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 03-05-2017, 10:09 PM
RE: Big Lies - by bobc - 03-05-2017, 10:44 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Ragnarök_62 - 03-05-2017, 11:47 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 03-06-2017, 07:44 AM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 03-06-2017, 11:49 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 03-05-2017, 10:15 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 03-06-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 03-06-2017, 03:13 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 03-06-2017, 03:31 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-09-2017, 03:51 PM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 03-10-2017, 09:06 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Eric the Green - 03-09-2017, 09:06 PM
RE: Big Lies - by pbrower2a - 03-10-2017, 09:51 AM
RE: Big Lies - by Odin - 03-11-2017, 09:40 AM

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