02-21-2017, 11:00 PM
(02-21-2017, 10:00 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:Dude, every time you take a dump and flush the toilet, society is paying for it one way or another.(02-21-2017, 05:18 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-21-2017, 12:39 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The answer to "the question relating to the possibility of a secret WMD program that may or may not have existed at the time" was that there was none. So, there was no justification for the war, and there was never any proof of such WMD. It was a ruse and a lie. In any event, even if Saddam had WMD, that still was not a basis for our invasion. It was entirely illegal. And the Iraqis fought against it.I'd like for you to explain how the so-called blind pigs are going to take you off the cliff with them.
The only alternative to Obama's decision to abide by Bush's agreement with Iraq to pull out in 2011, was to, in effect, establish another invasion and stir up opposition to it again. The "time of his decision to pull out of Iraq" was when he decided to run for president in 2006; "what was going on inside Obama's head" was his realization and statement that it was "a dumb war;" which it was.
Voting for blind pigs that take us off cliffs, as red voters do, is not individualistic. It is blind allegiance to an authority that has no basis in fact. It is not independent thought; it is ignorance.
They do take us off the cliff with them. We all pay for the unnecessary wars, in lives and the national treasure. We pay for the debt that it causes, and which is used as an excuse not to provide the programs we need.
We all pay for climate change, in the form of storms and droughts that we have to pay for. We pay for pollution with health problems.
Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere. When my fellow Americans are shot down for no reason, that hurts me.
If my social security is reduced, that lowers my income. When the economy is ruined by speculators because of lax regulation, that lowers my income.