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What Democrats and Republicans want
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(03-03-2017, 06:22 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(03-03-2017, 01:33 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(03-03-2017, 10:10 AM)SomeGuy Wrote:
(03-02-2017, 06:59 PM)Odin Wrote:
(03-02-2017, 10:33 AM)Marypoza Wrote: -- there fixed it 4 ya

I'm a progressive who opposes Putin for the same reason the Left opposed Hitler.

So the answer is "BECAUSE HITLER?"  What specifically has gotten you in such a murderous lather? Rolleyes

Putin is a tyrant and a murderer who wants to extend his control over other peoples.

http://listverse.com/2013/05/25/10-dirty...perations/

So what?!   CIA black ops mean the US is a murderer and wants to control other peoples as well.  Try again.  So for Putin...  "because CIA". Tongue

But hey, it's all good, for the ends justify the means.  For all power, all the glory, for the Neoliberals, for the NeoCONS, and injustice for all others.

Anyone who targets Americans for terrorist attacks can expect that a halfway-competent American leadership will thwart the effort or (in the wake of prior incompetence) exact revenge. Replace "America" and "Americans" with "China"  and "Chinese" could expect much the same thing. Had some real-life equivalent of Lex Luthor staged a 9/11 attack on Shanghai and Beijing, then such a person would not be safe even in Langley, Virginia (home of the CIA) from Chinese retribution. We have set an example for any significant power that has an intelligence network capable of homing in on a target and special forces capable of striking anywhere.

On the other side, I have no desire to see a news report of hijacked aircraft smashing into the Kremlin or into any skyscrapers in China.

ISIS, of course, is really, really bad. It is to the Islamic world what Nazism was to Christendom, and we Americans are going to be pulled into the civil war within the Islamic world. If you want to think of what the civil war within the Islamic world will be like, then consider the European and African theater of World War II as the equivalent of a civil war within Christendom.  Christendom had to choose between Onward, Christian Soldiers! and the Horst-Wessel-LiedOnward, Christian Soldiers!is perfectly legal throughout the Christian World. The Horst-Wessel-Lied is outlawed in much of the world.

The generational cycle is real. A bad leader like Dubya or Donald Trump can rush it and make it worse. A reasonably-good leader like Barack Obama might slow and mitigate it some, but he can't stop it. It takes a Lincoln, a Juarez, an FDR, or a Churchill to ride and subjugate the historical equivalent of the wildest bronco.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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RE: What Democrats and Republicans want - by Odin - 03-02-2017, 07:45 AM
RE: What Democrats and Republicans want - by Odin - 03-02-2017, 06:59 PM
RE: What Democrats and Republicans want - by Odin - 03-03-2017, 08:16 AM
RE: What Democrats and Republicans want - by Odin - 03-06-2017, 07:51 AM
RE: What Democrats and Republicans want - by pbrower2a - 03-05-2017, 04:27 AM
RE: What Democrats and Republicans want - by bobc - 03-04-2017, 07:12 PM

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