03-12-2017, 04:28 AM
(03-12-2017, 03:39 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:(03-11-2017, 10:56 PM)Galen Wrote:(03-11-2017, 12:15 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: <snip> long post</snip>
You left out the part where according to the Vault 7 material that was just released it is very possible that the CIA did some hacking and made it look like Russia did it. Deliberately and directly trying to rig an election is just the sort of thing that has too little upside and too much downside for Putin. Culturally Russians tend not to risk what they already have on the geopolitical stage. Its not is if the US hasn't done false flag operations in the past, Gulf of Tonkin comes to mind.
So far we have come out ahead with the rather odd outcome of most ranking Democrats looking like characters out of Dr. Strangelove.
I've not gone over much of the vault 7 material myself. But I wouldn't put false flag operations past the Deep State. They've done it before. But the risk reward for the Russians even if they had been involved in the election past the usual both candidates send a proxy to talk to the Ambassador and Consuls is such that there would be a lot at stake and very little for them to gain.
Historically the Russians typically don't gamble on the world stage. I doubt Putin is an exception to that rule--for all his faults he really is a very conventional ruler for Russia as is Medvedev who is essentially his Right hand.
It is strange that you bring up James Bond films. Putin himself has used similar imagery but when he does it it comes off as cool rather than crazy like the Democrats have managed.
But I have a clear bias being a long time Russophile.
That video was interesting and doesn't really surprise me a whole lot. By Russia's usual standards Putin is positively benign. Your assessment of his foreign policy is essentially correct. The only reason they are supporting Syria militarily now is because they see it as a survival issue.
Dr. Strangelove is not a Bond film but even after all these years it holds up rather well. Here is a sample since I don't think that you have seen it which is clear from your identification of it as a Bond film.
I am not Russophile but there is no good reason to start a war with them either if only because there is no way that ends well for anyone.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises