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Compare/contrast American Presidential elections
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(03-20-2017, 06:26 PM)freivolk Wrote:
(03-20-2017, 01:11 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: On the saeculum schedule, as I see, it, 2016 compares to 1852. Similar non-entities to Trump were elected in 1852 and 1856, whose incompetence led by the predominant party of the old order created the conditions for a national break-up.

Its historical incredible ignorant to compare Buchanan and Pierce to Trump. Buchanan looked back at 36 years in various offices, including secretary of state. You simply couldn´t be more political establishment then James Buchanan. And in this he is very comparable to Clinton. Buchanan and Pierce were very competent in the old ways to game the political system, they simply didn´t realized that the old rules didn´t worked anymore. Trump is a poltical outsider, who´s election blows the system up. This makes him comparable to Fremont and Lincoln. The problem is, he just is no Lincoln. The election may be a alternate version of 1856, where Fremont beats to everyones surprize Buchanan.

You certainly can't be more Establishment than Donald Trump. Today, the "political" "Establishment" is not the Establishment, unless it's the Republican representatives of the Establishment. The Establishment is the big money elite that gets all the breaks from our Republican and neo-liberal DINO politicians like Trump-- the big money elite who own everything in America and run everything.

Pierce and Buchanan are comparable to Trump, because they represent business as usual for today: the trickle-down economics that has caused our country to slide toward a break-up or worse. In this, Trump is very similar to Buchanan and Pierce. Trump is gaming the system, using the same old slogans, except more explicitly. Blowing the dog whistle of "less government" which really means "screw the poor," especially if they are not "real Americans" (white Christians). In this Trump is also like the Know Nothing Party which ran Millard Fillmore in this same period. It really means, "screw everybody but Donald Trump."

Trump only blows the system up, if the resistance to him revs up. Otherwise, just business as usual. Just let business have all the breaks. Close down government agencies that help people to protect themselves from the corporate state. Trump may be a "political outsider," but that means nothing, because his policies are nothing but political insider policies. Favor the rich, screw everyone else. That's been what US politics has been about for 40 years now.

I hope Trump is not Fremont. He was the first presidential politician of a new political party, the same one that now represents the elite, and a Party which needs to die in this 4T, IF it is to be any kind of regeneracy.

You name the issue, and Drump represents what is wrong and needs to die. Wall Street corruption and greed, nationalist racism, cuts to social and community programs, tax breaks for the wealthy, deregulation on steroids (including appointing wolves to guard henhouses), militarism and the MIC, corruption and big money in politics, culture wars, etc. The only issue he had some sense about, trade, appears to be nothing but a ruse about which he is doing nothing and probably will screw up on. Even his vaunted "infrastructure" plan doesn't exist, replaced by more cuts.
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Eric M
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RE: Compare/contrast American Presidential elections - by Eric the Green - 03-20-2017, 08:23 PM

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