Things Trump Is Doing Right

[Eric the Green]

(04-17-2017, 08:50 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(04-16-2017, 03:56 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(04-16-2017, 11:54 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(04-16-2017, 10:57 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: It would be dangerous. N Korea and its dictator can send missiles to S Korea and Japan and kill millions if we slap them down. If we try to take out all their missiles, they have hid them well in many locations so this may not be possible.

Mike Morell recommends just making sure to deter them with our threat to obliterate them if they use any nucs.

We need to test our ABM systems - THAAD and the Aegis cruisers - on their missile tests first.  One test may already have happened.

I agree; but we can't depend on them to stop every missile. So I say, provoking the Dear Leader is not a good option.

I hate North Korea and its Dear Leader. But we have to let his corrupt and decrepid state fall of its own weight, as the Soviets did, and meanwhile deter him from launching anything at us or our allies.

We let this nuc state "get away." But we can't let any more get away. That's why the Iran nuclear deal was good and necessary.

North Korea has a decrepit socialist economy, as the Soviet had, yes.  However, for the Soviet Union to collapse, they had to be shown that there was a better way.  That required Gorbachev, Reagan, and Glasnost.  The Kim family has perfected the propaganda needed to prevent the people from finding out about the west and to keep them believing they live in a socialist utopia.  Absent outside action, they are not going to collapse.

What we need to do is offer them a bargain:  they get rid of their nuclear weapons, and Kim gets to keep his little nation.  That will likely require military action.

Far better to take action now, when most of Kim's missiles are blowing up on launch, than to wait until he has missiles that can actually reach their destinations.

It is true that the Soviets went through glasnost before they collapsed. It's possible that North Korea could survive for decades until a future Dear Leader with some sanity tries to reform it. But, who knows what could happen. The PBS Frontline doc showed quite a lot of non-cooperation, escape, infiltration and secret defiance going on in NK now. But I don't think military action, even now, is safe for the people of South Korea. Kim has made clear that any attack on them means all-out war against the USA and its allies. And allies (like the French who were attacked by the IS) should be considered "ourselves."

I think South Korea would be wise to make every possible preparation now for an attack on them by Kim. We should be able to enter the minds of the enemy, and realize that their nuclear weapons are meant as protection by the Kim regime against a feared attack by the USA. And of course, Kim needs our saber-rattling, as much as possible by us, to stoke and strengthen his fear-based authority.

Practice in intercepting NK missiles might be risky too, but less so.