Trump's war on the environment

[Eric the Green]

(06-06-2017, 07:44 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:

(06-06-2017, 02:34 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(06-06-2017, 12:32 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:

(06-06-2017, 11:10 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

And yet China continues to belch emissions from coal burning. All those wafer fabs they have? Are mostly coal powered. Gotta love it.

Meanwhile in Europe wind farms are now being shut down and dismantled. Too much negative ROI. A complete financial disaster. The US has a better record for wind. We seem to have a better knack for knowing how to fit wind into our grid. Our wind farms are less loss making than the ones in Europe. A few are even slightly in the black.

And yet with all the so-called failures which skeptics assume have happened in Europe, they remained committed to going green. With Trump's betrayal, they have decided to speed things up. They will succeed, and we will fail, because a dufus got "elected" to be our so-called president. Once China gets all those solar plants and panels working, of course, then they won't need coal to power their wafer plants. The skeptics always make these absurd demands on the "warmists:" if you don't need fossil fuels, then let's see YOU do totally without them now. And if China still burns coal, then their conversion to solar is bunk. No, THAT is bunk. Transitions don't happen by waving a magic wand; it takes time, and it takes government support too.

China would rather ship their crappy solar panels to the US and Europe. Meanwhile they burn coal for their own needs. It's cheap. It's easy. And even though they are not as endowed with coal as the US, heck, they get it easily from the Aussies. And if the Aussies raise prices or try to make a tougher deal? I mentioned previously Beijing's Surge for the Strait of Malacca. I digress. The Chinese can stand up a coal fired power plant in mere months. What's not to like if you are China?

Ask the ghost of Stan Ovshinky, and the employees who worked for him, about how the Chinese destroyed the US PV device industry.

China is building solar plants and stopping coal plants. Their solar panels are fine; they are being used here to good effect. They are moving; in the USA, only blue states and cities are moving. I hope that's enough for now, until we can get the pests out of our government.