Democrats organize to fight back

[Odin]

(06-14-2017, 02:22 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(06-14-2017, 08:39 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(06-14-2017, 06:07 AM)Odin Wrote: Trump's original base in the primaries seems to have been the type of people that 35 years ago would have been called "Reagan Democrats", working class white people who vote Republican because of social issues, racism, and xenophobia, as well as Neo-Confederates.

To the degree that the above is more correct than a liberal straw-man, we can hope some people at least will be willing to grow up.  You can't forget that there are some who sincerely and intensely believe in small government, low taxes and large armies.  Still, your liberal description of the unraveling memes are deplorable reasons to destroy the country and the planet.  At least Trump is taking the Reagan unraveling pattern to and beyond any point of responsibility and feasibility.  Once he gets finished with the unraveling memes, will they have any credibility left?

You have to hope not.  If he demolishes the credibility of the Reagan unraveling memes, there will be room for a true regeneracy and/or grey champion.

I think the problem lies in the transition from the Industrial Age, that average people understand well, to the Post-industrial/Information Age that is best understood by the young and some of their more sophisticated elders.  The neo-Luddites want their day ... again.  Is this a vastly different scenario from the 19th century tranistion that lead to a disaterous 4T internacine struggle?  The degree of anger is similar, and, much like then, the players are moving to their respective corners waiting for the fight to begin.

If it comes to that, how will it play out?  It's not a matter of Region A fighting Region B this time.  I fear it would be more chaos than revolt, and harder to quell.  Take a peak at all the chaos in the middle east that emerged in much the same way.  Let's hope cooler heads prevail, though a viable solution that works for all is a mystery to me.

Relevant quote I've run into:

William Tecumseh Sherman Wrote:"You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail."

Just replace North/South with Urban/Rural.