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We Need Militant Nationalism
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(07-14-2017, 09:50 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(07-14-2017, 08:23 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: But hey, I did find one last illustration of the conflict between positive and negative rights which I just have to share:

[Image: bernie-sign.jpg]

Which is, naturally, a straw man.  Political signs are not mentioned in UDHR 25's guarantees, as food, shelter and medical care are mentioned.  It seems to suggest a right to equality rather than access to basic survival necessities.  What positive right covers political signs?  The above entirely misrepresents the progressive idea that the People ought to have access to the minimums.

There is a notion floating around that internet access ought to be a right in this day and age.  It is part of a notion that there ought to be public computer terminals for such access in public libraries.  That could likely be turned into a positive right, and as close as I can think or to what the image above suggests.  To my knowledge, the right to internet access is not a big deal talking point for most progressives, though it is worth talking about.

But the above seems more a denial of the negative rights of speech and/or press.

It might also be distantly akin to the late night TV 'humor'.  If one is trying for a 'joke', one can freely ignore truth in favor of 'humor' and a greater misrepresentation of what the other guys are saying.  I certainly can't claim that blue folks don't do it too.  I'm just sick of it.
Bob, not all straw mans are simply "straw man" as you say. There are so-called "Straw Man" like the one you referred to and discredited as a "straw man" that are actually earned and therefore accurate views/perceptions/portrayal that have been formed over many years of observation and participation in the political process. I've never called a blue voter a Bolshevik without enough evidence to use/apply to make the label stick. I assume you know your sides politics/political make up as well as I've come to know your sides politics/political make up over the years. I doubt Bernie would be as generous with his own money/resources as he appears to be with OUR money/resources.
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We Need Militant Nationalism - by X_4AD_84 - 05-26-2017, 10:14 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Warren Dew - 05-26-2017, 09:09 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Warren Dew - 07-02-2017, 09:37 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Galen - 07-03-2017, 02:14 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Odin - 07-02-2017, 07:12 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Warren Dew - 07-03-2017, 06:57 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by radind - 07-04-2017, 08:33 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by radind - 07-05-2017, 07:29 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Marypoza - 07-06-2017, 07:01 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by radind - 07-06-2017, 02:54 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by radind - 07-06-2017, 03:31 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Marypoza - 07-08-2017, 04:21 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by radind - 07-06-2017, 05:12 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Warren Dew - 07-14-2017, 08:23 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Classic-Xer - 07-17-2017, 04:10 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Classic-Xer - 07-17-2017, 11:22 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Classic-Xer - 07-17-2017, 10:22 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by pbrower2a - 07-17-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Classic-Xer - 07-17-2017, 10:39 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Classic-Xer - 07-18-2017, 10:33 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Warren Dew - 07-19-2017, 08:52 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by David Horn - 07-25-2017, 03:22 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by David Horn - 07-25-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by pbrower2a - 07-26-2017, 01:12 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by pbrower2a - 07-26-2017, 12:01 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by David Horn - 07-26-2017, 04:48 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by David Horn - 07-27-2017, 11:57 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by tg63 - 07-26-2017, 02:49 PM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by David Horn - 08-06-2017, 08:11 AM
RE: We Need Militant Nationalism - by Mikebert - 08-06-2017, 04:47 PM

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