07-21-2017, 11:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2017, 11:36 PM by Eric the Green.)
In my experience, especially online, I see a high number of deniers who do not acknowledge human-caused climate change. In fact most of them make the disreputable, dishonorable statement that they believe in climate change; it's happened for eons. So it seems to me that most "skeptics" are deniers. There are some climate change activists and prophets who are extreme, but it is they who are small in number. Here is one whom I know about, Guy McPherson, who can be considered extreme and out of the mainstream of climate science:
http://www2.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/n...d=11756300
But he is a distinct minority. And Bill Nye is not one of the extremists. Most climate change scientists and activists are right on target. What is scientism and phony in scientific "discussion" of climate change? The idea that models have to be exact in their predictions in order to matter. No, they don't. Science is not certain or exact, especially when it comes to predictions of this kind. No model is going to be exact; what is the case is that they have been correct in essentials; climate change is happening as they predicted, and will happen as they predict.
Exactly how much climate change and global warming will occur depends on certain factors, chief among which is whether the base of ignorant Americans who put Trump and other Republicans into office will continue to be allowed to get their way. That's #1. And in general, the difference will be decided by what humans (in both politics and business/lifestyle) do in the next years and decades. It seems certain that some level of catastrophe will occur, and some already has occurred, given our denial so far, and given the rope we have given to deniers so far to hang us with.
http://www2.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/n...d=11756300
But he is a distinct minority. And Bill Nye is not one of the extremists. Most climate change scientists and activists are right on target. What is scientism and phony in scientific "discussion" of climate change? The idea that models have to be exact in their predictions in order to matter. No, they don't. Science is not certain or exact, especially when it comes to predictions of this kind. No model is going to be exact; what is the case is that they have been correct in essentials; climate change is happening as they predicted, and will happen as they predict.
Exactly how much climate change and global warming will occur depends on certain factors, chief among which is whether the base of ignorant Americans who put Trump and other Republicans into office will continue to be allowed to get their way. That's #1. And in general, the difference will be decided by what humans (in both politics and business/lifestyle) do in the next years and decades. It seems certain that some level of catastrophe will occur, and some already has occurred, given our denial so far, and given the rope we have given to deniers so far to hang us with.