07-22-2017, 07:49 AM
There is so much wrong with your thinking I sometimes don't know where to start PBR. Fortunately for me, I know you're values locked anyway and my goal here is to point out how flawed your positions are to others.
Possible. But only if the pattern holds. And if we use the GIs and Gilded as models for the future behavior of civic generations they will move right too. As for the coming new prophets, they aren't being born yet so I'm going to with hold judgement as to their attitudes just yet. That being said having the west move left since the 1930s it is time for a reversal, and naturally this means a move right. It is my goal to die sometime before the nextdementia awaking sets in.
Suffice it to say, that at current the Zeds, late Millies and of course Xers of all stripes are moving right.
As I told my Boomer mother who was incensed that a former "Bernie Bro" went over to Trump and ditched the Democratic Party altogether (I've recently changed my affiliation--mostly because it was convenient) I personally don't care if he fixes the country or burns it to the ground. Either would be progress.
That is typical of presidents that are doers rather than talkers. He's not the first to be called a despot either, so he's in good company with the likes of Lincoln and your beloved FDR.
So what. Provided he gets the vast majority of his agenda done he will be a successful president. Considering the last three presidents got very little accomplished perhaps a change in management style is necessary.
Agreed. Why then do you continue to use it as a racial designation rather than a linguistic one? .
Also it is not a cultural designation either. Peruvian culture is very distinct from Cuban culture which is distinct from Argentine culture. All of them are likely Hispanic (as would be a Spaniard) as the lingua franca in each of those countries is Spanish, but they are clearly not from the same culture.
In attempting to appear not-racist you expose yourself as the ignorant lefty bigot you are.
Actually his documentaries are well researched, you would know this if you actually watched them, or for that matter read his books (the citations and bibliographies are actually longer than the book itself--which is typical of his academic writing style). But then again I expect anyone who is contrary to your values locked views has to be a crank.
So, your argumentation is that the problems these states have is either a result of lacking a high tax, high regulation business environment (like sayCommiefornia California which people are fleeing in droves), or that the lowest of the bottom feeders remained after the jobs dried up. Either way you're blaming the very same people who are most oppressed (in your view) for being oppressed.
I'm not terribly surprised by this. I'll chalk it up to your perennial snobbery. It is an affliction you share with many others who remain in the Democratic Party.
No they don't. Being a "middle class" (I'm going to take that mean middle income since I've explained class to you thousands of times already and you still don't get it that the amount of monoply money in your bank account doesn't matter) and black myself I've never faced racism. Or I should say, I've never faced it on a systemic level and almost never at the hands of whites. Indeed the largest amount of racism I've experienced is from other blacks who have a problem with me "acting white" by which they mean speaking correctly, holding down a job, taking care of my kids.
Indeed I've experienced far more homophobia than I have racism. Again at the hands of other blacks, as opposed to whites or any other group.
Indeed the fact that there are high income, and middle income blacks demonstrates how not-racist the US actually is. Granted the majority of blacks are poor, but so is the majority of whites and latinos. And for that matter the majority period.
If this is true, then you should already understand that there is a diversity of outcomes because there is a diversity of skills, abilities and intelligence. Yet, you want to stick to the leftist narrative of oppression. Honestly I don't know if this is due to a lack of intelligence on your part, or because it is psychologically comforting to you because it means you never have to take responsiblity for the outcomes that have happened in your own life. After all you still blame your parents for a whole host of shit and my understanding is that you've been over 18 for quite a while now.
A 20 year old blaming his parents for X, Y, and Z is far more understandable than a 60 year old doing the same. It's sad really but my 17 y/o seems more mature than you. Could be generational though--I say the same of my mother at times.
You mean those very unions which lead to over priced labor and eventual off shoring. Honestly I think we would have been better off had they never existed.
Congratulations, you left the house to visit these states to see not very interesting tourist traps. Having lived in those states for extended periods of time I think I have a greater grasp on their problems and the causes of those problems than you do. Honestly if I could make a living up there I'd pack up and leave. The BF can basically get a job in any state that has schools and since that means all of them that isn't a limitation.
As a long time owner of dogs he is unlikely to react to an eclipse of the sun. Their consciousness is not as complex as a human's.
If you want a free country you're already in the freest one. I say that as someone whose been to many countries in my time in the Navy. I can categorically state that the United States of America is the last best hope for humanity.
PBR Wrote:If the Silent and Progressives are any indication, then we will see them go from a feather-my-nest mode of behavior to finding meaning in life, aligning themselves first with a Civic generation (GI) or one that ends up in a Civic role (the Gilded) only to find younger Idealists (Missionaries and then Boomers) as fresh breezes of intellectual freedom.
Possible. But only if the pattern holds. And if we use the GIs and Gilded as models for the future behavior of civic generations they will move right too. As for the coming new prophets, they aren't being born yet so I'm going to with hold judgement as to their attitudes just yet. That being said having the west move left since the 1930s it is time for a reversal, and naturally this means a move right. It is my goal to die sometime before the next
Suffice it to say, that at current the Zeds, late Millies and of course Xers of all stripes are moving right.
Quote:I see a leader like Donald Trump as the sort who makes a rebellion a certainty for anyone who has a conscience and an intellect.
As I told my Boomer mother who was incensed that a former "Bernie Bro" went over to Trump and ditched the Democratic Party altogether (I've recently changed my affiliation--mostly because it was convenient) I personally don't care if he fixes the country or burns it to the ground. Either would be progress.
Quote:His managerial style is despotic.
That is typical of presidents that are doers rather than talkers. He's not the first to be called a despot either, so he's in good company with the likes of Lincoln and your beloved FDR.
Quote:His Presidency acts more like a royal court than like the Brain Trust of FDR.
So what. Provided he gets the vast majority of his agenda done he will be a successful president. Considering the last three presidents got very little accomplished perhaps a change in management style is necessary.
Quote:"Hispanic" is more about culture than about race
Agreed. Why then do you continue to use it as a racial designation rather than a linguistic one? .
Also it is not a cultural designation either. Peruvian culture is very distinct from Cuban culture which is distinct from Argentine culture. All of them are likely Hispanic (as would be a Spaniard) as the lingua franca in each of those countries is Spanish, but they are clearly not from the same culture.
In attempting to appear not-racist you expose yourself as the ignorant lefty bigot you are.
Quote:Dinesh D'Souza is a crank.
Actually his documentaries are well researched, you would know this if you actually watched them, or for that matter read his books (the citations and bibliographies are actually longer than the book itself--which is typical of his academic writing style). But then again I expect anyone who is contrary to your values locked views has to be a crank.
Quote:Self-inflicted harm. Gross under-investment in public health, education, and infrastructure -- that will get bad results no matter what the ethnic heritage. When the coal-mining industry dominated the local economy there were plenty of well-paying jobs, and the Democratic politicians in West Virginia could operate a bare-bones government with low taxes and few services,. Once those jobs vanished, all that remained was people who had to leave to improve their lives. Guess what is left!
So, your argumentation is that the problems these states have is either a result of lacking a high tax, high regulation business environment (like say
I'm not terribly surprised by this. I'll chalk it up to your perennial snobbery. It is an affliction you share with many others who remain in the Democratic Party.
Quote:Middle-class blacks still face racism
No they don't. Being a "middle class" (I'm going to take that mean middle income since I've explained class to you thousands of times already and you still don't get it that the amount of monoply money in your bank account doesn't matter) and black myself I've never faced racism. Or I should say, I've never faced it on a systemic level and almost never at the hands of whites. Indeed the largest amount of racism I've experienced is from other blacks who have a problem with me "acting white" by which they mean speaking correctly, holding down a job, taking care of my kids.
Indeed I've experienced far more homophobia than I have racism. Again at the hands of other blacks, as opposed to whites or any other group.
Indeed the fact that there are high income, and middle income blacks demonstrates how not-racist the US actually is. Granted the majority of blacks are poor, but so is the majority of whites and latinos. And for that matter the majority period.
Quote:I have a knack for sizing people up for intelligence and learning very quickly.
If this is true, then you should already understand that there is a diversity of outcomes because there is a diversity of skills, abilities and intelligence. Yet, you want to stick to the leftist narrative of oppression. Honestly I don't know if this is due to a lack of intelligence on your part, or because it is psychologically comforting to you because it means you never have to take responsiblity for the outcomes that have happened in your own life. After all you still blame your parents for a whole host of shit and my understanding is that you've been over 18 for quite a while now.
A 20 year old blaming his parents for X, Y, and Z is far more understandable than a 60 year old doing the same. It's sad really but my 17 y/o seems more mature than you. Could be generational though--I say the same of my mother at times.
Quote:U-N-I-O-N-S. Strong, militant, welfare-oriented unions ensured that someone who did a labor job for a giant employer could not be underpaid just for being black. Now that unions are practically dead, we have economic elites who treat everyone not among them very badly.
You mean those very unions which lead to over priced labor and eventual off shoring. Honestly I think we would have been better off had they never existed.
Quote:By the way -- I was in Kentucky, Tennessee, and North Carolina in April. Key attractions were Mammoth Cave and Great Smoky Mountains National Park
Congratulations, you left the house to visit these states to see not very interesting tourist traps. Having lived in those states for extended periods of time I think I have a greater grasp on their problems and the causes of those problems than you do. Honestly if I could make a living up there I'd pack up and leave. The BF can basically get a job in any state that has schools and since that means all of them that isn't a limitation.
Quote:I'm taking the dog so that I can see how it reacts.
As a long time owner of dogs he is unlikely to react to an eclipse of the sun. Their consciousness is not as complex as a human's.
Quote:I'm getting a passport so that I can visit a free country. Canada.
If you want a free country you're already in the freest one. I say that as someone whose been to many countries in my time in the Navy. I can categorically state that the United States of America is the last best hope for humanity.
It really is all mathematics.
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