07-22-2017, 06:06 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-22-2017, 06:10 PM by Bob Butler 54.)
(07-20-2017, 07:48 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: I saw a poll today indicating that a majority of GOP members polled were OK with the Trump Campaign having met with Kremlin people to help facilitate Kremlin interference in the 2016 Election. I did not leave (the majority of) the GOP, the (majority of) the GOP left me. There was a time when the majority of the GOP were good Americans and rock ribbed pro Western conservatives. That day is apparently long past. I have moved beyond political parties, at least for now. My sole affiliation is with the USA. I am a Real Nationalist.
Something I thought about today is what constitutes a red line for Real Nationalists. I'd say, if that anti Western, pro Kremlin GOP faction don't get under control soon, that is a definite red line. After that I see two outcomes. One outcome is, judicial process apprehends and liquidates the domestic enemy. Failing that, we will see the second outcome, namely, extra-judicial liquidation.
In this second scenario, some billionaire or set of them will support a militia of Real Nationalists, funding their armaments and training. Yes, it is warlordism I am describing.
If the choice is between warlordism and becoming some Vichy or Quisling appendage, give me warlordism any day of the week.
On political web forums you get talk like this. I'm used to seeing more from the red NRA and Militia corner. You see enough encouragement of the spiral of rhetoric and violence to keep me on spiral watches. Last summer, Black Lives Matter were pushing it a bit. This year, there was that ad from the NRA, and an abundance of stuff like the above.
But if anyone does something big like OKC, the establishment plays a theme of 'this isn't how America changes.' Well, that theme isn't entirely true. Violence is how America has changed in the past. Somewhere, though, violence has to a great degree left the culture. Martin Luther King? Hippies? We can blame what violence we have seen lately on 'lone nuts'. The violent activists aren't organized and tend to suicide tactics, preventing them from building on their efforts. It might also be that police work has improved. It has become harder to build a large organized group without getting infiltrated by some alphabet soup police or intelligence agency.
And we've got the unraveling pendulum. Parties hang onto the White House and Congress for 4 or 8 years. That being the case, people can see an electoral failure coming and see little need to take or risk lives. To me at least, Trump's election seems not a red triumph, but a particularly clumsy and brief swing of the pendulum into red territory. Yes, we have to minimize the damage done by Trump's red swing, but the question is whether the blue reaction can bust the pendulum pattern and restore stable collective crisis values.
This isn't to say some things aren't worth fighting for, or that violence is obsolete. Right now, though, the unraveling pendulum seems to be swinging fully. There is still a futile search for a red politician that can make the unraveling memes work.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.