Is Terry McAuliffe the man?

[Bob Butler 54]

(07-29-2017, 12:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-28-2017, 10:35 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: The word "progressive" only resonates with intellectuals and wanna be intellectuals. Look, intellectuals either voted for Clinton or some protest vote, in 2016. Very few of the Trump crossovers were intellectuals. Fuck "progressive." That word is not going to win over the angry under employed or unemployed non or anti intellectual working person. In fact it may send them running in the opposite direction. The working person doesn't give a damn about LGBTQ. They don't give a damn about the worst case AGW scenarios. What they care about is money ... the money into their household. A new vocabulary will be needed in order to the Dems to win back people are are not already won over unlike the current Dem supporters in the bubble lands. The Dems need to win over hard hats, small business people and the like.

Last year I was talking to some small business people who live in far, far Left Marin. But I could tell they were going to vote for Trump. Now that was a type of protest vote, given their precinct. But it was good data, regarding the Dems' problem.

I think the word progressive is fine, and it resonates pretty well. No-one can expect every word or slogan to resonate and find agreement with everybody. Progressive just means people are interested in progress. Progress just means we deal with what we need to deal with, and can move and get things done and improve things. That is exactly what has not been happening much in America for 40 years (counting now back from the year 2020, as we have recently decided-- in November 2016-- to move further backward until that date, at least; there's just no accounting for American ignorance). Our nation is falling behind others as a result. So, don't "fuck" progressive. Respect it. We need progress on the things that the under-employed/unemployed are concerned about. That's the main thing we need progress on, along with AGW, and everyone knows it.

But, new vocabulary is fine if you have better ideas. However, I doubt your version of violent nationalism is the right language for lots of folks either. But, we speak in the ways that make sense to us, so, we listen, and translate into words that make sense for us; no worries.

X_4AD_84 does have a point.  The more a that people who smell like Democrats / Liberals / Progressives alienate anyone who might get convinced, the more they shoot themselves in the foot.