Neil Howe: 'Civil War Is More Likely Than People Think'

[Eric the Green]

(07-28-2017, 02:59 PM)noway2 Wrote:

(07-26-2017, 11:36 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: Although I am promoting Militant (Apolitical) Nationalism, I am classic Center dweller. I'm nauseated by the Trump-loving, Duginist Neo Nazi Totalitarians. For the first time in my life, there exists a political group who incite me to potential violence. If a People's Army were to form up to combat them, who'd take a 54 year old (but still fit) old fart, I'd join.

Meanwhile, the Left? They don't nauseate me, but at times they do annoy me. Witness my keyboard mini debates with EtG.

Interesting way to put it, apolitical nationalism and the "left" doesn't nauseate you (I assume the "right" does) but they do annoy you.

In many ways I find myself agreeing with the apolitical nationalism, but both the "left" and the "right" nauseate me in different ways and for different reasons. There are some aspects of the platforms on both the "left" and the "right" that I support and some that I vehemently oppose.

In fact, I consider both the Pugs and the Dims to be two polar facets of one uni-party, neither of which represent a large portion of the people. It is almost comical that it came down to a Clinton versus Trump, the former epitomizing much of what I and many other people despise about the "left" and the latter I believe is the result of people's despise of the "right" and he rode more of the natural pendulum that would have made it very difficult for the D's to get a 3rd term.

One way to consider myself would be a "small government liberal", or to put it another way one who thinks we have too damned much government, getting too involved in our lives, passing too many damned "laws" that they have no business getting involved in. I am fiscally conservative and while I believe in the benefits of a safety net, I am tired of working to fund legions who sit on their backside with their handout; and no I do not believe they are entitled to anything - be it a basic income or health care at other people's expense. I am absolutely sick of being "taxed" (stolen from) to fund either the handouts both to the "poor" and the "corporate welfare" on the left and the "crony capitalism" on the "right". On the other side, I am socially liberal. I don't believe the "government" or the "church" should be telling me what I can put in my body or who I do what sex act with, or anything of the sort, as long as I am not putting the public in danger by my behavior or actions they need to butt out.

I have seen a growing number of people like me and more and more we find ourselves saying there is only one way to put a stop to the nonsense that is getting to be overwhelming - a violent revolt.

You may have to choose which side to revolt against, and which to join. I don't know if the rebels in this 4T will be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. The vast 30+ percent of Americans who are fundamentalist and racist will be the heart of any right-wing rebellion. See the article I posted about those very socially-conservative folks. On the left, there will be plenty of social-justice warriors and fiscal liberals who militantly disagree with your classic and typical conservative views about taxes as theft and legions of freeloaders. However, if somehow the revolt were to be sparked by another bailout of banks too big to fail, then at least temporarily it could come from people on both sides.