06-13-2016, 05:46 PM
(06-13-2016, 01:07 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:I thought that is was clear that I was referring to verse 6 in John 14.(06-13-2016, 01:00 PM)radind Wrote:(06-13-2016, 11:46 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(06-13-2016, 05:24 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:(06-13-2016, 01:56 AM)taramarie Wrote: You guys make enough "stuff" but people do not have the money to buy necessities and many are in debt. I believe that is what many are focusing on as the most important thing of all. Survival in hardship.
The economic elites have found how to control people so that they believe that nothing matters except that the elites get whatever they want -- which is everything. Around 1980 we largely Americans sold out to the concept that we are are nothing more than our basest drives. We allowed ourselves to be atomized in return for some vague promises of economic gain. Everything is about lucre.
We enter a Crisis Era because of the bad practices that have developed since the last Crisis, vices that have become nearly sacred. Yet those vices degrade us. Most arise from the 3T -- bad business practices and bad mass culture. One big contributor to our misfortune is the debasement of education, mostly from the Awakening-era "Multiversity". The idea that the college student wants to go as quickly into specialized training or to experience a watered-down grad school instead of developing some wisdom from millennia of experience best taught as the liberal arts has ensured that people, however technically proficient they may be, lack the wisdom even to recognize the virtue of reciprocal kindness. Life becomes little more than personal manipulation.
"Ship it", "sell it", "cut the deal". Of course it is all pragmatic. But what if "it" all depends upon the degradation of human existence?
That is all correct. We focus on economic gain, justified by and geared toward gain for the elite. We end up with neither real life, wisdom and culture OR economic gain. We forget our millennia of experience, which includes the teaching of the one we once revered as our spiritual leader: seek first the Kingdom of God, and its righteousness, and all else will be added.
A verse that I like.
Quote:Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6,ESV
I'm not sure which verse you are saying you like.
But obviously, what Jesus was saying in John 14 is that the way is to know that you are God.
John 10:34: Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?
Using the Bible or the Koran as an excuse for prejudice against gays or those of other religions, is not acceptable. Using sacred texts to claim that yours is the only true religion, is not acceptable. The results of accepting it: what we saw in Florida yesterday.
I did not mention anything about prejudice. I do claim to be a Christian and we clearly have different worldviews.
It does appear to me that many of the ones conducting terrorists acts are associated with Islam and I agree that such evil acts of violence should be rejected by any religion.
As you might expect, I do not agree with your interpretation on John 14. Following are notes from one commentary.
Quote:Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
10:31-38 Christ's works of power and mercy proclaim him to be over all, God blessed for evermore, that all may know and believe He is in the Father, and the Father in Him. Whom the Father sends, he sanctifies. The holy God will reward, and therefore will employ, none but such as he makes holy. The Father was in the Son, so that by Divine power he wrought his miracles; the Son was so in the Father, that he knew the whole of His mind. This we cannot by searching find out to perfection, but we may know and believe these declarations of Christ.
… whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Phil 4:8 (ESV)