Threat from the DPRK (North Korea)

[Warren Dew]

(09-26-2017, 09:53 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(09-25-2017, 05:54 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(09-25-2017, 02:02 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(09-24-2017, 12:43 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(09-23-2017, 10:55 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: If the idea is for the US to be a democratic republic then having a draft is absolutely necessary.  I agree that getting rid of the draft was a mistake.  Myself would like to see it re-instituted, hell we could even include two years of civilian national service instead of military enlistment as an option.

The draft is a form of slavery, plain and simple.  There's no reason to bring it back.

Draftees are considerably less effective than volunteers.  Especially in this day and age, when it costs so much money to train and equip each soldier, it makes no sense not to start with people with some motivation.

The days are gone when wars were won by the side with the largest number of barely competent cannon fodder just by giving each man a rifle.  And we should be glad those days are gone, as the US would lose such wars due to relatively low population.

I see you totally missed the point.  Kinser got it.  The point of a draft is skin-in-the-game.  We live a communal existence, and the burdens should be shared communally.

This would make sense if we were communist.  We aren't.

Unless you live on your own island and provide totally for yourself, you are part of the commonweal. We all share the cost of the military, roads, police protection and social security.  You may not like it, but it's the way it is.  If I can't opt-out of the things government provides but I dislike, neither can you or anyone else.  

You might take a minute to realize that we, as a nation, elected to NOT have a standing army by making it permanently impermanent in Article I, Section 8, Paragraph 12.  We also provided for a militia in Paragraph 16.  The underlying assumption: we were all expected to carry that burden (well, all white men at least).

None of which says we live a communal existence or that we need a draft.

We live private existences with the exception of a few services contracted to the government as permitted by the Constitution, which in fact prohibits a draft by prohibiting involuntary servitude.