Well, I'm back

[Galen]

(01-09-2018, 01:42 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:

(01-08-2018, 08:19 AM)Bob Butler 1954 Wrote: Well, there you go strawmannirg again.  I see myself, like most progressives, as uninterested in a pure economic equality which would give equal funds or resources to all.  I am interested in a floor, in guaranteeing a minimum, as does the UN's UDHR.  

If your world views cannot survive correctly attributing the opposition's motive, how do you intend to contribute?

Any attempt at setting a floor never stops at setting a floor, just like all attempts at the regulation of private intitutions initiated by the state  never stay set at "X product cannot be sold to minors, and cannot be used while driving a motor vehicle on public thoroughfares".  The nature of the so-called progressives is to never be satisfied.  Where Marxists want to over turn the old order for an order of their making in one fell swoop (IE a revolution), so-called progressives prefer to slowly erode the state of freedom (the natural state) until such point as a state of slavery is reached.

That is the nature of the so-called progressives.  So you'll forgive me if I have no interest in their ideas considering the main difference between them and the Marxists is the speed at which they desire to make everyone equally poor, equally ignorant, equally naked, and equally hungry.

It is this quirk of the modern liberal or progressive that makes them such nasty little totalitarians no matter how they see themselves.  Progressives, Marxists and Socialists all have the same fatal flaw: the solution to all problems is central planning and control by the state.  They only differ in how quickly they progress to the same end.  No matter how much destruction they cause they never seem to learn from it which is where these groups get their reputation for stupidity.