05-22-2018, 04:31 PM
(05-22-2018, 03:24 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:(05-22-2018, 11:17 AM)TheNomad Wrote:(05-21-2018, 07:34 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Much of it depends upon how the Fourth Turning crisis ends -- victory or defeat, survival of Humanity/civilization/technology/capitalism...survival of the American political system was not a sure thing in 1930. This Crisis begins with a huge inventory of nukes in place instead of being recent introductions to the military arsenal at the end.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I should ask, where do you think we are in America in terms of brackets? If my view is sound, that we are kind of at the middle or end of the Crisis, it seems like it was not very "dramatic". Seems to me if may have been a real "soft reboot" and we will see the changes happen in response to that. Yes, 911 and 2008 were big events, and I know people who lost everything over the financial crisis. But it was not much in terms of a huge war or a whole generation of people dying in the war or due to some plague or whatever.
OR, is there more Crisis yet to come? That's what I am trying to figure out.
But this financial crises didn't seem anywhere near as bad as the Great Depression was. I have often wondered how today's society would deal with GDII. Don't think nearly as well as those who lived through GDI did. Back then more people were able to grow their own food, etc. Eating out wasn't a big thing, and neither were huge homes, cars, and expensive nights out at concert halls and sporting events. Many today treat these things as God-given rights. The one activity that has died off is bar-hopping, most likely due to stricter drunk driving laws. Today people are very hooked on getting things done, to the point that leisure time has dwindled significantly over the last 40 some years which is the opposite of what many pundits originally expected.
But did you live through the GD? How can we really know? I believe all things are relative, and we often may not be able to compare such things over TIME... or even to the measure of how it affected peoples' lives. I have some really good personal examples in my own life and those in my life. I have been studying these concepts for a long time. When all this was going on, I did not pay that close attention. My friend lost successive properties even to the point where he and his entire family lost everything and had to partner up with other family members to live in a place and environment NONE of them ever thought they would have to. That example is not one person or another. There were several people who lost everything. Totally gone, all semblance of security and general happiness with having to accept situations they never expected or wanted.
I have personally experienced devastation I won't go into here.
I don't know what people expect while making the comparison. There were homeless camps in the 30s, there were homeless camps now in the teens and NOW there is a great homeless problem across America. No one asks where that came from. Droves of people lost everything. We as a culture are just so much better now at hiding it. And who would want to show or promote such news? Who would want to show the reality as it is? Nope. You will follow the exact model of the authors and it means the Nomads get the shaft, no one listens or cares, let's shift our focus to the Millennials and how shiny their future might be. It all fits like the proverbial glove.