(05-25-2018, 10:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I don't know how you are going to avoid global weather chaos. That would be a neat trick; it's reality and not a dream. The oil and coal companies seem to want it though, because they would rather cause it than change. It won't matter what anyone wants or likes; things are still going to hell, and we either wake up and climb out, starting now with the current movements and regeneracy, or we just sink further into it.
"when we see younger people being like "NO. NO NO NO. THIS IS WRONG. IT MUST STOP. WE WILL CHANGE IT IF YOU DO NOT" then that inspires people my age that maybe something can change. Opposite to that, you have those older than I who created that shit to begin with and who love it, live in it, foment it, desire it, THEY WANT IT. So, it becomes WHO WILL WIN AND HOW." Right, Me too. And those older than the younger people like us, who agree with them-- Gen Xers who can manage chaos, and Boomers who can envision and lead-- will join the side of change and engage the battle and win over the next 10 years of the Fourth Turning. As Cameron Kasky said, I look ahead 10 years and I feel hope, I see light; I see a system I'll be proud of. The march is the beginning.
I've seen this. If that is not an INDICATOR of popular consensus I don't know what is. I am kind of like when I saw the Parkland CNN thing, I was shocked. I could not believe what I was seeing. Real people saying "my children are being killed IN SCHOOLS" and a 17yo student actually looks at rubio and asks for KEVLAR VESTS FOR STUDENTS and KEVLAR WALLS FOR THE SCHOOLS.
The frakkin Crisis is ending not continuing. These children are not meat for the grinder. They nor their parents or the public at large is going to sacrifice these kids to some foreign war. Look at them. Listen to their parents. They have no ink. No piercings. No wild blue hair. They look like CLONES as was described in the texts "the most uniformed generation in history" that does not mean they had to wear boy/girl scouts or dress up as a marine as children, it is metaphoric, they are UNIONIZED. How long has anyone heard of a UNION? I had my first job at a grocery store and was in a UNION. I was making better pay as a 16yo than when I was 22. I was protected, heard, the union fought for my pay raise and made it happen.
It's coming. That archetype is already adult and established. They are living with their parents still - due to the economic heist of 2008, not marrying, not procreating, just sitting around as the beloved of their tribe. How long can that stagnation last?
Can I add just for context, when I was in the 3rd Turning bracket, people just sat around sad about school shooting as a desperate act. Basically, no one really cared. Not like this movement. Parents really did not stand and scream "MY CHILD DIED IN A SCHOOL BY AN ASSAULT RIFLE". So, as per the authors, the nomad gets the shaft, and the issue is ONLY addressed when the beloved archetype experiences it. Their lives are worth the protest. They matter.
But in sum, it is probably the kids themselves who became outraged and convinced parents not to accept it. Basically, their own saviors. Good for them.