Looking Toward The Next High

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(06-07-2018, 12:14 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(06-06-2018, 11:03 AM)TheNomad Wrote: ... There never used to be a word for talking heads that only erupt information of a false nature with doctrine, dogma and continually repeated phrases and sentences like some sort of verbal battering ram.  At least, I don't remember there being a word for that or an actual description or strong acknowledgment of THAT.

Let's call them what they are.  Propagandist seems appropriate.

And, when necessary, liars. These people should know the difference between falsehood and truth and recognize that truth is precious and falsehoods are good only for quick gains followed by big harm.

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TheNomad Wrote:Is it progress the general populace is identifying something like this?  That news orgs like CNN outright call it "lies" openly and without fear? If so, that's a really good step forward.  You said not everyone is savvy enough to see through this.   have to believe that even strong identification of this behavior by those with Power is a wonderful educational tool.

Someone might watch CNN clips and they hear this: "alternate facts" and "alternative narrative".  They start thinking.  This is a fracture of fundamental reality and I don't think people will allow that much longer.  There is ridiculous blue winning in places they've maybe never have.  It seems like a backlash on red for  being so dumb with all that. But I am glad this stuff is becoming even cataloged for posterity, we might see what parts of this frakked part of history could be changed for the better.

This is still a game in play.  Some pretty ugly things have happened in the past; things that didn't get corrected for decades.  Look no farther than Spain under Franco or your choice from the Soviet-era.  200+ years of democratic rule is no guarantee.  At best, it's a weak vaccine that can be overwhelmed if response is poor and conditions are adequately volatile.

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Dictatorial regimes depend heavily upon lies -- OK, lies, tortures, and murders. The deterioration in the reliability of political figures in democratic societies leads to a culture of political distrust that debases the electoral process. This began with Republicans pushing the idea that Barack Obama is not an American.

To be sure, no politician can achieve all the promises that he makes while running for President (the President suggests, and Congress accepts or rejects), but those who make promises impossible to achieve or make them to get votes and forgets the promises after getting the vote deserve to go down to defeat. Obviously we have to excuse a politician for a war that he did nothing to deserve for the ensuing deficits...

200 years of political heritage may be no more valuable than 20.