06-22-2018, 12:46 PM
(06-22-2018, 08:16 AM)David Horn Wrote:(06-20-2018, 03:56 PM)LRagnarök_62 Wrote:(06-20-2018, 12:18 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: It's always been quite standard for the justice system to separate detained criminal suspects from their children. Why do we suddenly care when the suspects are illegal aliens, when we've never cared when the suspects are US citizens?
Hmmm.. This mess needs to be fixed.
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3. Define exactly what constitutes "asylum". I don't think spouse abuse or stuff US citizens go through should qualify. After all, man, charity begins at home. Fix those problems here first before going on some global crusade to fix the world's problems.
While I agree that there are limits to asylum, we need to be careful about what is and isn't legitimate. If you are a woman living in hyper macho-land, institutional indifference to your welfare is a legitimate reason to flee. If the government sides with your oppressor, simply because you lack a penis, that government becomes the problem too.
OK, but "macho-land" is pretty extensive in the world. A lot of the Islamic world is that way with some exceptions like the Kurd tribe. Latin America is/was , [ask an expert] may be another location. In any event, macho-land seems to be a really big place on earth. So, to use an analogy, and to extend it to immigration in general try this:
You're cooking a pot of soup. A teaspoon of salt is OK, while dumping the whole can makes a horrible tasting and most likely toxic soup. Immigration is like salt, a little is fine and beneficial, while dumping a whole shit pot is a very bad thing. The "To me, the no border brigade are a bunch of clueless idealists. They ignore human nature, history, and even climate change. Humans seem to be as dumb as petri dish bacteria when it comes to breeding. Climate change + breeding will result in billions of deaths. Earth is finite and infinite things crash. The same rule for deer applies to humans. I just don't want to consume a lethal dose of sodium.
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