Is The Current American Border Dispute A Catalyst Event?

[TheNomad]

(06-23-2018, 12:55 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(06-21-2018, 06:03 AM)TheNomad Wrote: The Fourth Turning text conceptual framework cites a catalyst as being an event which (sometimes combined with other events or things) can cause a TRIGGER within a Turning; redistributing public opinion in shocking and even revelatory ways.  Public opinion then determines mood and major public mood swing can indicate collective movement within the Turning. 

Is this a catalyst occurring right now?  Does it reveal any information or indicator concerning the what comes next?

It could be a catalyst, probably not the only one. I say it COULD be because Trump is going to CONTINUE to push this issue. He is a racist who wants to make America white again. He won't stop trying to keep the "rapists, drug dealers and criminals" from entering the USA, whom he assumes the Mexicans and Central Americans are. "They're not sending their best" Drump said in his campaign announcement 3 years ago. "They have lots of problems and are bringing their problems with (them)" he said. This is his core mission. He wants people to come here from "Norway." Of course, he forgets that people from Norway are liberals too, so the goal of keeping America Republican would suffer no matter where immigrants come from. So I imagine he's going to crack down on all of them eventually, except maybe the ones that his client and donor companies want to hire. 

That's what he calls the merit system: allow people in who actually DO take jobs away from Americans, and keep out the ones who take jobs Americans DON'T want. And meanwhile just deport them, in the cruelist way possible as a deterrent; don't go after the businesses who need them, and for goodness sakes (Trump might be saying) don't make sure that the businesses treat the immigrants well or pay them a living wage!

You said "it could be a catalyst...." and that was it.

The rest of your reply was talking at me expounding your political beliefs and core ideology.  I am sad this is what we are now.  I'm doing an experiment about this, how in on-line interaction, we can no longer remain focused and only read what others say with the intent on what we are going to reply to it.  As if the same as church pastors walking around with their bible ready at any moment to engage others with the sole unconscious intent of converting or spreading their own personal gospel.

My OP and the question it raised, the two persons who responded did so only to espouse their beliefs.  Not to address the OP.  It is not only here, but it seems everywhere now. 

Is there anyone reading who wants to discuss this current event and if it could be a catalyst toward great Public Mood shift or manifestation of shift?  Where Public Mood can offer a glimpse into location within the Turning?  Hope to hear from you.