06-27-2018, 05:17 PM
(06-27-2018, 02:02 PM)David Horn Wrote:(06-27-2018, 12:55 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: One possibility is that we have to fight our way through this cold civil war fourth turning for the next 10 years, and then IF the best side wins (not the Republicans, whatever it is), then a time of greater consensus will follow, as promised by the authors of T4T. It won't be as "high" as the American High, because it will be more like the 1T that followed the hot civil war. But usually, 1Ts are more civil, and kind, or at least polite-- at least if you more-or-less go along with the program. Then comes the chance to fulfill the sixties awakening in the next one. You can bet that it will fulfill it too; take that to the bank! The neo-sixties, cosmically guaranteed! There were never more "trusting" people than the flower children. We never reach full paradise in our lifetimes or that of our grandchildren, and flaws and lessons will remain as they did before; but the cycles turn, and more-trusting times will come.
"For the first time in a long while, I look forward 10 years, and I see light" -- Cameron Kasky
Don't assume that the next 2T will have any resemblance to the last one. We Boomers were the product of nearly hermetically sealed lives: comfortable if not lush and generally positive on things material. The next Prophets won't have that experience. With the middle class being hollowed out, the children of the 2020s and 30s will have more focus on equality than awareness out of basic need to prosper. Socialism is a more likely outcome of the next 4T than any open-society social awareness meme.
Agreed. If the Trump agenda fully congeals, then the next 2T will be a rejection of the repressive, corrupt, hierarchical, mindless, and inequitable order that reflects you-know-who. The psychedelic expressions of the 1960s and 1970s will be completely irrelevant. That Awakening Era could be a rejection of the small minority of Millennial adults who wield power as successors of Trump seemingly right off the old block, the ones whose idea of social justice is that 2% get the sugar and 98% get the shaft. Religious authorities associated with the Establishment view for political reasons instead of moral convictions could be obvious targets for contempt. Cultural ferment could even be antiquarian, of all things.
As with other Awakening eras, I would expect alcohol use to soar much as it did in the Soviet Union as life was both materially and spiritually impoverished... of course alcohol is an excellent solvent for a conscience.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.