Unkind, Risk Averse and Untrusting

[Eric the Green]

(06-27-2018, 02:02 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(06-27-2018, 12:55 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: One possibility is that we have to fight our way through this cold civil war fourth turning for the next 10 years, and then IF the best side wins (not the Republicans, whatever it is), then a time of greater consensus will follow, as promised by the authors of T4T. It won't be as "high" as the American High, because it will be more like the 1T that followed the hot civil war. But usually, 1Ts are more civil, and kind, or at least polite-- at least if you more-or-less go along with the program. Then comes the chance to fulfill the sixties awakening in the next one. You can bet that it will fulfill it too; take that to the bank! The neo-sixties, cosmically guaranteed! There were never more "trusting" people than the flower children. We never reach full paradise in our lifetimes or that of our grandchildren, and flaws and lessons will remain as they did before; but the cycles turn, and more-trusting times will come.

"For the first time in a long while, I look forward 10 years, and I see light" -- Cameron Kasky

Don't assume that the next 2T will have any resemblance to the last one.  We Boomers were the product of nearly hermetically sealed lives: comfortable if not lush and generally positive on things material.  The next Prophets won't have that experience.  With the middle class being hollowed out, the children of the 2020s and 30s will have more focus on equality than awareness out of basic need to prosper.  Socialism is a more likely outcome of the next 4T than any open-society social awareness meme.

Being guided by rather-unambiguous signs from the cosmic cycles of our solar system and Earth, that's why I can make that statement. And my good predictive record is a reason not to dismiss it. Other factors may cause my prediction to fail; we won't know, probably, but perhaps some millennials here will be the older generation then, and will have to deal with the alpha-wave prophets. And they will have at-least an outsiders' view of how it turns out. You may have some good points there. However, I see a potential for economic boom in the late 4T and 1T, given the energy that I think will be revved up. Recall that boom times accompanied the civil war, and I think the next 1T will be the next Gilded Age after our Cold Civil War turning (if it's not too violent, that may turn out to be its name indeed). So while I don't see another American High providing the next prophets with a comfortable childhood, at least for the white ones, I think it will be comfortable enough for the next prophets to seek fulfillment rather than material progress alone. But the next prophets, being like the Missionaries, will have a more outward orientation than boomers, and a greater civic awareness. But, prophets are still prophets, as always, and they will be involved in many spiritual movements just as the missionaries were.

I would not count out social and economic progress returning before the next 2T, with the result that inequities will be smoothed out by then. It seems improbable now, considering how entrenched the oligarchs are today, and how many political guardrails they have erected to block the path of reformers. But as Ryan Deitsch and I both put it, the engines of society will have been revved up to an extreme degree in the 2020s, and in the new Gilded Age there will still be some activism. It will be more "sullen," but also more active with left-over resentments and movements, just like the late 1860s and 1870s. There is still much time for the usual trends of 4T and 1T to happen, and that trend is toward greater civic responsibility and increasing equality. Looking back at the last 4T, despite New Deal reforms, equality was only achieved by high taxes during World War II. Look for something in the late years of this 4T to accomplish this again, and further progress to happen in the following 1T. Equality will probably not go as far yet as last time, but on the other hand the increasingly diverse population will not be denied their role and their opportunities, as much as they were last time.

On the other hand, just as the next 1T will be more active and have more conflict than the last, the next 2T will be somewhat calmer in mood than the last. Things balance out, according to Neptune's transits-- the keeper of the double rhythm. Socialism is a tall order for the USA to ever institute, but I definitely see the sixties returning in many ways, and other radical changes in the late 2040s. That will mean the next Great Society, which will also be extended to other countries. Despite Trumpism and xenophobia now prevalent in response to the migrant crisis I so clearly predicted, globalization will not be stopped, and by the next 2T it will be looked upon as a good thing again.

Socialism is the revolution of the previous revolutionary cycle that began in circa 1848 and ended in the nineteen-sixties, replaced by the New Left and the Green movement at the leading edge of change. Given the continued crisis of climate change, I expect Green to be fulfilled, as the revolutionary cycle climaxes early in the next 2T, much as it began early in the previous one. The Uranus-Pluto opposition in 2047 will be the bright full moon in the cycle that began with the Uranus-Pluto conjunction of 1966, the dark new moon of the cycle. And Neptune goes into Taurus, the sign of Earth Day, opposite to its Scorpio position in the sixties. Much will still need to be done to re-green our world, including radical steps toward carbon capture from the air and sea, and radical changes to our corporate society. Green is the goal now of revolutionary movements, and THAT is what will emerge from the next 2T and continue to be instituted in the following years. Green means more small-scale institutions and community organizing, instead of a takeover of the collective, large-scale industrial machine by leaders of the proletariat. In the new post-sixties Green Revolution cycle, the machine itself must be changed instead. But the true Green movement is and will include the best from previous movements too. http://philosopherswheel.com/thethreerevolutions.html