07-13-2018, 11:38 PM
(07-12-2018, 03:52 PM)David Horn Wrote:(07-12-2018, 01:53 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(07-11-2018, 11:21 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(07-11-2018, 01:46 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: "repressive, hierarchical, and inequitable social order"? Where people from the wrong side of the tracks can make a career only in the military?
You got it. That's how the elites fill up the cannon fodder ranks. Heaven forbid folks like the Bushes, Cheneys, Clintons, and all of those stupid neocons' spawn stay safe.
None of the Clintons, of course, belong in the company of the Bush and Cheney group.
I have to disagree there. Bill was the ultimate DINO and Hillary was as fluid as a river. Note: Bill never served. Neither did Cheney or Trump. W served in the Texas Toy Air Force, flying obsolete planes that would never be called into service … but he did serve, sorta. As far as I know, none of the other Bushes served (except GHWB, of course).
John Kerry served in one of the most dangerous jobs in the military of his time. Bob Kerrey got the MoH. McCain's history is so well known that saying more is a waste of time. None of these folks needed to serve. They had the wherewithal to avoid it.
It's hard to make generalizations, though the Neo-Cons have a virtually blemish-free record of military avoidance.
I thought the comment by Rags was about providing wars with cannon fodder. The Clintons can't even hold a candle to the Bush/Cheney cabal in that department. But it's true about who avoids service. That's much less significant though. Doing service you can avoid is heroic, but avoiding it seems like a good idea to me too. But if you avoid it, and then send others, that is not so admirable.