GRIZZLY STEPPE: hacking of the American elections of 2016

[David Horn]

(08-02-2018, 02:48 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(08-02-2018, 10:20 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-02-2018, 12:16 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: The chances are likely that you are looking at a Red wave in 2020. We might give the Democrats a couple of years to prove beyond all doubt how worthless/pathetic the Democratic party is today as far as AMERICAN INTERESTS are concerned? I can afford a couple of worthless years watching Democrats doing nothing but being a pain in the ass as issues build and anger and resentment of blues rises. Think about it, you're associated with a party who is damn near split between European socialism and American capitalism, the serving the needs of US citizens and the needs of foreign born citizens ( refugees, illegal and/or illegal immigrants, foreign visitors and foreign entities) and so forth. How many more years til 4T?

I doubt there will be a RED wave in 2018 or 2020 either.  That's not to say that a BLUE wave will subsume the GOP either.  We're all in for an extended muddle, unless the GOP manages to keep control at some minimalist level.  If that happens, and maybe even if it doesn't since we've already set the table with the first two Trump years, a major recession will clobber the poor and middle class.  The top 10% will still do fine … as they always do.  What happens then will be 4T finale.  for now, it's too hard to analyze.

I tend to agree with David.  Trump has managed to flip the see saw.  [understatement] He is viewed very poorly by the blues and center.  [/understatement]. The blues will get another inning in 2018 and 2020.  The question is whether the blues will then govern the whole country, believe their victory is a mandate rather than a rejection of extremism.  If they don't see the center and build on the center, the see saw goes on...

Thomas B. Edsall has a really good analysis of this in the NY Times.  I don't agree entirely, because I believe that economic issues have a much broader appeal than all the culture nonsense (that's unresolvable in case). Read some of the comments, which are more to the point I think.

We have issues that must be addressed that are being made all the worse by Trump & Company -- the climate even more than the economy.  That needs to be halted, but the almost certain addition of another right-winger on the SCOTUS may make that all but impossible.  If 2020 isn't a blow-out, and packing the court isn't feasible, then the near and mid-term future may be toast.  Sadly, that's how I see it.  The culture warriors just can't stand down for anything.

I wrote this for my local paper back in February, and it still holds water.