Here It Comes?

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(08-29-2018, 08:26 PM)TheNomad Wrote:

Quote:"Sunnis based in Saudi Arabia did 911"

Isn't that really just another way to say "Arabs attacked us because we are free and they hate freedom"?  What is bin laden or whoever really did it (ppl refuse to entertain the idea the cabal of which you speak operate at much higher frequencies and plot over greater amounts of time we comprehend) what is bin laden V any "arab man/men/people/(goats?)" in a turban to the average American?  It's the same thing.  

It's nice you're probing.   The nitty gritty is that the US was friends with Osama Bin Laden and his band of Mujuadeen in Afghanistan to get the Russians out. The US stuck some military bases in Osama's country, Saudi Arabia. Osama didn't like that because "infidels" were polluting the holy land , Saudi Arabia with said bases. He told the US to get those bases out or their would be trouble.  The US just blew him off and kept the  bases. The trouble was 911. So, to be precise, it wasn't "Arabs", but our former friends in Afghanistan who turned on us. The precise term for that is "blowback".  < Look it up and get enlightened, my friend.

Quote:Is Israel "arab" or not.  Be real for a minute.  

Israel should be a Jewish/Palestinian  homeland. However, Netanwahoo just sees it as for Jews only. I just beg to differ with Netanwahoo in that it *should be for both for Jews and Palestinians.

Quote:You say gtfo of afghanistan but in this last cycle at least, America considers the very world to be there for it to use as platforms whether it be Economics (Rise: Japan, Germany), War (E. Europe, Korean peninsula, Vietnamese peninsula, etc) or Labor Outsourcing (India, China, etc).  

Afghanistan is just the start my friend.  If the US isn't to go the way as prior empires and yes, we're an empire now. Few will accept this as a real thing, but I do. You see there are but two choices.

1. We keep going on the imperial project and at some point collapse like all others. All empires collapse into a heap of rubble. That's just how it goes. That point is most likely closer than many Americans realize.

2. Cease and desist imperial projects. Start by leaving Afghanistan. Next shut down all of those bases, you know 800+ overseas bases. Now reduce the "defense" budge by 80%.  I'm sure there's a bunch of other stuff like reducing the number of spook agencies to a nice number like 2 instead of 17!

Quote:It seems THIS America was created bespoke for the current president.  Meaning, if you take - in spirit - all the global collateral from WWII and America's ascension to dominance and you then apply it to reality?  THIS America was made for the MOST self-centered and ego-driven creatures to rule it.

All of the above can be defined by a single word, empire.

Quote:In a way, is this not frankenstein come home to roost?  What will we learn in this Turning to do differently?  Obviously nothing or we wouldn't be talking about consistently repeating saeculums.  CAN WE AFFECT CHANGE

Yes, the chickens are coming home to roost on our empire project. Think of it this way. Trump is a nice big fat orange chicken who is shitting all over the place on Twatter.  As for the 4T, dunno, it could go a number of ways. It took a while for Rome to collapse. Perhaps Trump is the USA's Caligula