Commandments?

[Eric the Green]

(08-29-2018, 10:43 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(08-29-2018, 05:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Or maybe you gave up too soon?

It's yours and anyone's business what they believe and think. Good ethics can be found in many places, and the best of these principles have much in common anyway. Myself, I don't think the obvious errors in the thoughts about the divine among many religious writers and leaders, have any effect on the reality or not of what we call "God." Nor is it "God's" fault if we mistake a convenient image or myth of God for the reality. 

This is only about our own human evolution of consciousness. What we need, I think, is higher consciousness; though I myself only see a glimpse of it enough to know that it's there, and that the usual debates among those who are not accustomed to considering mysticism, leave out what is closest to reality, and engage in debate about the old false authorities, scriptures, preachers, myths and images instead.

I think not.  I had two world views at the same time, an engineers, and a seekers.  The question was how one modeled reality, which world view to have.  I ended up going from various religions to scientific psi research and coming up with a psi theory that accounted for the evidence.  You didn't need god as a hypothesis to explain the data.  The data showed an increase in emotion rather than a more benevolent reality.  My world view went with the data.

People seek different things, fill different needs with their world views.  I eventually found I needed an explanation of what was happening more than I needed to feel good.  I found religions shifting with culture, no evidence of a benign omnipotent intelligence not supported by physics.  That was enough.

Others, whether evangelicals, mystics or other, need otherwise.

Curiosity drove me. I needed an explanation, and I found it in mysticism. The deeper I seek, the more I find. What I have found though, is that most people, especially people our age today, are dogmatically fixed in their opinions and are deaf to rational persuasion. Too bad.