(09-15-2018, 12:46 AM)TheNomad Wrote: It's hard to be on the side of the Nazis if one is serving in the US armed forces against Japan in World War II as was George H W Bush. You can associate the sons of '43' with questionable things, but certainly not with Nazis.You really don't know? Wealth finances campaigns, it wins campaigns, it influences, it purchases, it gives fortune, it inserts into the right crowds and schools.
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I think we all know that in an aristocratic society, mediocrities get elevated and talented people from the masses find barriers. Careers open to all? That is an innovative idea of the French Revolution, and not ours. I see our executive elite similar in many ways to the Soviet nomenklatura, a class of experts necessary for making the alleged worker's paradise work when it lacked the economic rewards
upon which a market society depends as motivations. It is hardly surprising that those experts got their kids into the best schools and out of doing work 'proletarian' in character. Does this sound familiar? As monopolistic tendencies and crony capitalism emerge in the American economy, opportunity itself becomes a privilege often inherited.
It is also possible that certain elites see themselves as operating under a principle of noblesse oblige, defining themselves with public service that includes high political office, support of high-profile charitable activities, patronage of the arts, and even military service. The best of such cultivate talented people from the masses. The worst?
I can tell you about fascist movements in Hungary in the 1930s and early 1940s; in them the leadership was aristocratic, and it collaborated with the Nazis in killing off the Jews who were much of the Hungarian middle class as competitors with the aristocracy. Aristocratic elites at times are almost as hostile to a market economy as are Marxists.
Know the enemy. Anyone who believes that no human suffering is ever in excess so long as that suffering coincides with their gain, indulgence, and power is the enemy of democracy and all social equity.
Quote:I really have to explain? That was very shocking, I could not read more of your post. As far as I am concerned, if Nazi wealth went into Bush coffers, it also funded his (and the rest of them) all their political campaigns and made them viable people in the closed circle cabals of things like Skull & Bones and societies where you would never know or associate with people of that CRUST if you were not afforded that privilege through wealth.
World War II interfered with the ability of Prescott Bush to profiteer off connections with Nazis, Nazis developing a slave-labor economy that relied upon brutality that would have put the fictional Simon Legree to shame. We will never know what the future was for a Nazi hierarchy after 85 years of its hold on power in Germany. Thank God -- and the Allied armies!
There would have been room for some wealthy German families to wax incredibly rich off the toil of slaves in industry. Nazi Germany was the first country to adapt slavery to an advanced industrial society. (The Soviet Union, when Stalin was trying to force its rapid industrialization, used forced labor).
... Skull And Bones is spooky, but all and all it sounds about as dangerous as the local Masonic Lodge. I do not try to make something out of some organization just for having some strange rituals, which could be dangerous to innocent people. Jewish conspiracy for world domination, anyone?
Quote:The same above could be said of the Kennedys and the patriarchy making bank to insert all HIS blood into the world stage.
Rothschild? Rockefeller? Krupp? Sassoon? That's before I talk about outright Mafia families.
Quote:You can't believe in cabals because somehow, you are unable to make the very simplest connections like "Prescott profiting from the Nazis has nothing to do with his progeny and their political ascension". <--- that is just a really ignorant statement at best. Think it over before you respond (seriously).
Amorality. I see it as nothing more than a profit-and-loss decision on the part of Prescott Bush -- who of course is no longer with us.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.