09-24-2018, 06:14 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2018, 06:23 AM by Eric the Green.)
(09-24-2018, 04:59 AM)Marypoza Wrote:(09-24-2018, 03:59 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(09-23-2018, 08:55 AM)Marypoza Wrote:(07-20-2018, 11:49 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(06-27-2018, 01:53 PM)David Horn Wrote: I agree that a violent revolution is out. It won't work -- not today, at least. So that leaves the slow, messy political process, which has been purposely gummed-up by the GOP. To get anywhere from here, we need at least 2 election cycles to get enough change in the Senate to prevent yet more loses in the SCOTUS (Note: Anthony Kennedy just waved-out, so Trump gets two appointments at least). Assuming that the progressive wing of the Dems is able to win big in 2020 and move things along, having a majority in both Houses of Congress and the Presidency, the way is still blocked by a right-wing court.
Reapportionment happens in 2021, so the 2022 elections will have newly drawn districts, but the GOP will still have the courts to block the new maps (this is based on the already obvious extremes the court is willing to go to keep things Republican and the relative youth of the conservative members of the court). Can the Dems do today what FDR could not in 1937 and add a few additional seats to the SCOTUS? Unlikely.
So we march out of the 4T having achieved a stalemate at best.
It seems so. I am not wearing my rose colored glasses. And yet the real 4T years are still ahead, so there's no telling how far things will go, or how dynamic the emerging Democratic majority could be, if it happens. They could pack the Court, if there's no other option for a dynamic 4T that makes changes. A 4T in which we march out of it in stalemate has never happened yet. The Democrats could even take over the Senate in this year's elections, since 4 Republican seats are vulnerable (NV AZ TN TX). That means Trump supreme court nominees could be blocked.
-- don't bet on it. Eric, those f-ing Dems are already moving 4ward to get Kavanaugh confirmed
Most Democrats are good, and will vote against him, just as they did against Gorsuch. Kavanaugh will not do as well. If he gets confirmed, it will be the two moderate Republican women, and/or one or more conservative Democrats like Manchin from deep red states, who vote him in.
You CAN'T condemn the Democrats for this. Our system makes it very difficult and extremely rare to have a genuine Democratic majority in the Senate. The USA election and congressional system was set up deliberately to keep the slave states in the union. It still works that way. Democrats can't get a majority, much less a filibuster-proof one, without winning in small rural and other deep red states. As long as we have states with people who remain hooked on the Republican ideologies, and who don't yet see that these ideologies are false, we are stuck.
-- actually Eric, thd Dems l was thinking of are Pelosi & Shumer
They won't support Kavanaugh; Pelosi can't even vote on the matter.
The only possible Democratic votes Kavanaugh can get are from deep red states. Manchin is the most likely; others possible are Donnelly, Heitkamp, Jones, any Democratic Senators who voted for Gorsuch.
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cns...on-gorsuch