06-29-2016, 06:01 PM
(06-29-2016, 07:25 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:Quote:I don't disagree that secular humanism is a defacto religion. I agree with you on that, and it is in fact a choice on the well-done select-smart religious survey. I hope you accept and realize that this is my view.
A small item of agreement.
Quote:I disagree that they pose a threat to religious freedom. That is absurd....What you think is absurd, I think is true.
Quote:I expect that the issues you are bringing up are NOT 4T issues at all and won't be resolved any time soon. Thus, they may be around for centuries, not 20 years. The issue does depend on worldviews, and those do not change in 4Ts.
I expect the changes to accelerate if Clinton is elected.
Quote:I disagree that my rejection of barna is due to my worldview. I reject their definitions and their methodology. I have already made that clear. But, on this forum, people do not usually read or consider what other participants write. I think secular humanists, widely defined, are about 10-15% of the population, and evangelicals/fundies are 40% and Christians overall about 75%. No, we don't agree on that, but I contend that that is the fact. I do agree that "seculars" have more influence than their mere numbers.
We have different perception of the actual numbers. No point to discuss further-this will take time to unfold.
Quote:I agree, but your religious views are still the same as, and are based on, those of the large, central traditional authorities.My postions are my own and I frequently disagree with many of what you call 'traditional authorities'. I am sure that there is overlap, but I have a fundamental disagreement with the concept of any central religious authority.
… whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Phil 4:8 (ESV)