Still-powerful Silents

[Marypoza]

(03-18-2019, 11:30 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(03-17-2019, 04:14 PM)Marypoza Wrote:

(03-17-2019, 03:26 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(03-16-2019, 12:32 PM)Marypoza Wrote: -- some of my more political friends claim Beto's campaign is already DOA. And it's just been launched. I guess we'll see

Beto is the first true Millennial candidate, with all the warts that implies.  Like Trump, he plays the room.  He also plays the hive-vibe.  He'll be a lesson in how to do it in the future, or not.  I suspect he'll do well -- just not well enough to matter.

--  Beto's 46. He's an Xer. Tulsi, otoh, @ 38 or 39, she's a Millie

Beto's already made his 1st mistake: <LINK DELETED>

That ain't gonna fly with Millies, many of whom work crappy jobs with no health care. If they're working, that is. Or with us younger Boomers who wish the Govt would @ least lower the age 2 60, if not 0. Maybe even older Boomers & Silents, who, even tho they got Medicare, would like the lower Canadian drug prices. That leaves his fellow Xers & that's not a large enough voting block.
 
Unless Beto stops being his evasive self & comes up with something better, he's DOA. If Bernie taught these Millies anything it's to look @ the issues. They shouldn't be falling 4 another empty suit this time round

Beto doesn't have to be a Millie to have them in his camp, and they seem to be joining in droves.  Tulsi, on the other hand, is not gaining any friends anywhere, and may start to pull-down support for others in her camp.  If you read her stuff, she just wants to walk away from foreign involvement, which tends to create vacuums to be filled by others.  That's not a policy, even though the long-term goal is right.  On this, Colin Powell had it dead-on.  We broke it; we still own it.  How we get out of stupidity is still a work in progress, but creating another mess isn't it.

And saying that single payer may not be the right way to universal healthcare is posturing, not policy making.  If you say, "I'll travel in any lane that goes the right way" attracts more followers than saying, "This lane, and only this lane."  It may work.  It may not.  It's tactics in service to an unknown strategy … which is the REAL problem.

---Ok, maybe some Millies are falling 4 his stick. There was a vetting piece on another board exposing Beto's voting record (the link l am looking 4) & there were some Beto trolls on there very upset that Beto was being vetted, that the majority of the members were disinclined 2 vote 4 just any old thing (or blue, in this case ) l suspect maybe they are obots still wanting their rainbow unicorn ponies.

 Seriously,  the Millies as a group have not fared well  economically these past 10 yrs. From shitty jobs to low home ownership, as a group they are not checking off the boxes we consider "doing well" The oldest among them are pushing 40, most of them are not kidz anymore. As Civics, they s/b the group sizing up candiidstes on the issues, & how said candidates will better society as a whole, if l am interpreting S&H correctly. As Gabrielle so nicely put it, Beto isn't the advocate for the ppl we really need right now. The Civics s/b able 2 sniff that out (esp if this old Boomer can) l'll go with Rags on this 1 & say he's an empty suit. The Millies have already fallen en masse 4 1 empty suit. I'm guessing the majority of them, if not older & wiser, are @ least once bitten twice shy. But we'll see.

As 4 Tulsi, if by foreign involvement you mean  stop tossing good $$ after bad into those black holes known as Afghanistan & Iraq, & maybe Syria, then l have no problem with that. As l said, that $ can be better spent. Funny how we never have $ 4 health care, infrastructure,  or other improvements 2 our country- & now the Donald wants 2 take away $ from Medicare & Social Security- but there's plenty of $ 2 throw into those black holes. Then there's the immorality of sending young kidz into that mess 2 be machine gun fodder. She is reviving the peace movement in that bam-bam killed. What's wrong with that? That said, maybe Tulsi would make a better VP candidate than 4 Prez this time out. Again we'll see