(03-19-2019, 10:00 AM)David Horn Wrote:(03-18-2019, 04:29 PM)Marypoza Wrote: Seriously, the Millies as a group have not fared well economically these past 10 yrs. From shitty jobs to low home ownership, as a group they are not checking off the boxes we consider "doing well" The oldest among them are pushing 40, most of them are not kidz anymore. As Civics, they s/b the group sizing up candiidstes on the issues, & how said candidates will better society as a whole, if l am interpreting S&H correctly. As Gabrielle so nicely put it, Beto isn't the advocate for the ppl we really need right now. The Civics s/b able 2 sniff that out (esp if this old Boomer can) l'll go with Rags on this 1 & say he's an empty suit. The Millies have already fallen en masse 4 1 empty suit. I'm guessing the majority of them, if not older & wiser, are @ least once bitten twice shy. But we'll see.
Beto may be the empty suit you claim, but that's hardly the point. The only real point: who gets traction. Beto launched with $6.2Million in small donations. That gives him bragging rights for not taking big money, while fully funding him for the entire front end of this campaign. Others will be fund raising; he'll be campaigning. Don't discount highly effective tactics -- even those in support of a Nothingburger strategy.
Marypoza Wrote:As 4 Tulsi, if by foreign involvement you mean stop tossing good $$ after bad into those black holes known as Afghanistan & Iraq, & maybe Syria, then l have no problem with that. As l said, that $ can be better spent. Funny how we never have $ 4 health care, infrastructure, or other improvements 2 our country- & now the Donald wants 2 take away $ from Medicare & Social Security- but there's plenty of $ 2 throw into those black holes. Then there's the immorality of sending young kidz into that mess 2 be machine gun fodder. She is reviving the peace movement in that bam-bam killed. What's wrong with that? That said, maybe Tulsi would make a better VP candidate than 4 Prez this time out. Again we'll see.
I think you missed my point. Electing to walk away is not a strategy that actually works. Ask Obama about his no-involvement strategy in Syria. We're not the only players on the chessboard, nor are we exempt from the sort of blowback the EU has felt by playing that game themselves. Opt out and we might get flooded with refugees. Ours will come from the rolling disaster to our south as well as the Middle East.
If you want to be proactive, double or even triple State Department funding, solicit every qualified diplomat we have floating around out there, and start working the problems from that angle. Expect to spend money to stabilize areas we've destabilized, of which there are many. Note: this is not something that can accomplished instantly. We stupidly decided to be arrogant and just take charge in some places, walk away in others, and destroyed a lot of local assets in the process. They need to be rebuilt, and we're about the only option for doing that.
-'- supposedly most of the $ Beto "raised" comes from his failed Senate bid. How true that is l dunno. We'll see how well he does going forth
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/14/former-o...sjLbirwHok
This pretty much confirms (not only) my suspicion that Beto is being pimped by obots, & evidentally not just Millies. Maybe you're right & l'm just being 2 optimistic about them as a group being able 2 see thru this clown.
I'm all 4 diplomatic solutions 2 problems. I believe that's what Dennis & Tulsi were arttempting when they met with Assad. Also the Donald meeting with that little Korean fratboy. Which is why l don't care 4 these Dems whining about it & accusing the Donald of supporting dictators. Look, l'm no fan of the Donald either, but if he can get fratboy 2 point his missile toys away from here more power 2 him. As it turned out, however, fratboy picked up his missles, l mean marbles & stormed out
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