03-23-2019, 09:55 PM
(02-20-2019, 10:56 AM)Marypoza Wrote:(02-19-2019, 11:26 AM)David Horn Wrote:(02-18-2019, 08:07 PM)Marypoza Wrote: -- Eric, l think that as the Millies become more & more influential in the Govt & the Silents & then Boomers die off, this neolib crap will die off with them
Chiming in -- I have to disagree. The entire justification for neoliberalism is the promotion of wealth, and that never totally goes out of style. I do agree that the current round in this on again off again romance with the rich and famous will be off again very soon. Eventually, it will return, just as it did this time. Of course, as S&H predict, we'll be dead so it won't matter to us.
-- well that's what l meant. I guess l should of added 4 the time bring. It will raise it's ugly head in a future saecula
Neo-liberalism was out of date the moment it was hatched. But then, we still see prejudice against religions even on this board. So, it appears that progress is uneven. Mr. Parker and Dr. King said that the arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice. That is an article of faith for all those of a liberal progressive spirit. And if it's true, then unjust ideologies like neo-liberalism and prejudice against races and creeds will die out eventually.
Have we really progressed? I was thinking about the spiral dynamics v-memes yesterday, and how to reconcile them with modern brutality, prejudice, destruction and war greater even than in ancient times, even as we have seen greater invention, more spiritual awareness, and the extension of human rights and prosperity to more people.
I use the planets as a symbol of this evolution, and in our last 2 1/2 centuries we have moved into the Orange Uranus liberal progress meme, the Lemon Neptune socialist meme, and the Green Pluto meme. The spiral dynamics folks also speak of Yellow integral and Turquoise holistic/mystical, as many more smaller and manifold minor planets have been revealed.
Sometimes I keep going once I start on one of these mental historical excursions....
Before the great Revolution of the late 18th century, We lived in a traditional society bound within a horizon of established norms and powers. There was no democracy, little free enterprise, lots of ignorance about other folks, a worldview limited to what was known to the senses and believed from scriptures, and so on.
But we did evolve slowly through the memes, colors and planets. It's a fascinating scheme. In the Beige Moon era we had little more than extended families and a few crafts, but we started moving around the globe. In the Purple Mercury meme we joined into tribes and developed language, myth and magic and became expert hunters and ritual cave painters. In the Pink Venus meme we developed agriculture and animal herding, built stone monuments, and studied the stars and seasons and aligned our cities with them. We worshiped and sacrificed to the gods and the goddess of fertility. In the Red Mars meme the guys became full-time warriors led by lords and emperors using strategy and the weapons and tools of bronze and iron. The rulers and their architects built temples with graceful columns and working aqueducts to stabilize their empires. In the Blue Jupiter meme the emperors became religious and the soldiers learned chivalry, as the Church became the first estate and the leading power. Faith was uppermost, and was expressed in great cathedrals. Finally, we reached the Brown Saturn meme when the kings and the second estate organized dynastic secular (but church-supporting) states within definite boundaries for people with a common language, and scientists and artists portrayed realistically the visible world. Each meme brought the previous ones to more advanced levels within themselves.