05-10-2019, 03:43 PM
(05-02-2019, 08:02 PM)NobodyImportant Wrote: If you showed someone from the 90s the way we are living right now the most shocking thing would be the absolute loss of any sort of privacy. The NSA violating the constitution, the CIA violating human rights, the army committing warcrimes, this all came after 2001, and was never an issue like this. In fact the most animosity towards the political elite from both sides of the political aisle is exclusively due to what sort of liberties were taken after that point in time. Businesses are allowed to do a lot more compared to private persons after this, because they did not have their rights curtailed because they are needed for the economy but regular people had. The economic crash might have made things more dire, but the "screw regular folk, what matters is state and economic interests" which causes the current anti system climate, started exactly after 9/11.Screwing regular folks had been well in place long before 911. When were you born?
Quote:And the policy of "if someone tries to put US personnel on trial for warcrimes the standing order is to invade denHaag" is i would say a pretty fucking huge policy change along with torture now being a totally fine thing to do, and constitutional violations in spying on your own citizens directly and with the help of corporations being commonplace. It's exactly the sort of thing that leads to the old system showing that it is unfit to function at least as much as the new generations are concerned.
Quote:The Vietnam war happened because there was a clear opponent.
WTF? Just how old are you?
Quote:Iraq had not much directly to do with 9/11 which prompted it since it was the war on terror.
Quote:As a matter of fact from a more historical and less sociological point of view the "war on terror" is considered a new historical epoch on earth as a whole.
That said, I can see your point about the difference between the mid-1990's cohorts and those after. But again. you are confusing cultural generations with historical generations. They are different things!